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Shaphne
Nov 11, 2018 15:30:03 GMT -5
Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Nov 11, 2018 15:30:03 GMT -5
If the 13th Ghost movie is a separate timeline from the current DTV series than they would be able to have Scooby, Shaggy and Daphne living together like they did in the original 13 Ghosts show. They could be hiding any Shaphne elements from the trailer so they could market it like any other modern Scooby DTV.
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Post by slicknickshady on Nov 11, 2018 15:33:23 GMT -5
The trailer is filled with only Fraphne moments. But you are right, other stuff could be hidden but I think you are right. It’s not the same universe. Which makes it more confusing.
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Shaphne
Nov 12, 2018 0:55:12 GMT -5
Post by futurerocker on Nov 12, 2018 0:55:12 GMT -5
I didn’t know it was his email. My thoughts won’t go over well here but I’ll post them. Tom has no part in the movie so it will retcon that away anyway. Not to mention it was never shown on screen. I just need to stop trying to make sense of Scooby Canon. That’s my issue with all this. If 13 Ghosts is now canon with the DTVs. It’s canon Fred and Daphne love each other. But also she was with Shaggy? WTF! Obviously if Tom wanted them together.. he did a crappy job showing it... having to confirm it by email almost 34 years later. 😂 I have a right to find it curious.. he does this after the fact. When it’s clearly not shown on screen during 13 ghosts. If he truly meant for them to be together? Obviously a ton of people missed it and didn’t see it. Only a few people with other crazy theories ever speculated it. From what it looks like they’ve already retconned the series by saying Fred and Velma were at camp. And if Tom isn’t even involved. His saying they were together means nothing. Tom is irrelevant in Scooby canon now anyway. Regardless.. I think we can all agree Scooby continuity is exhausting to figure out. Now that they are trying to entwine all the shows with the tv shows. I refuse to believe Daphne is in love with Fred and vice versa (Stage Fright) but also dated Shaggy (13 Ghosts) and now they are both connected (Curse of 13 ghosts). So Tom can say what he wants. He didn’t show it in the series and he’s not involved with the DTVs or the series currently. If it’s not shown.. it’s not canon. He could have thought that but he obviously didn’t follow through with it. All that matters is Tom has no influence. And by this email. That’s a great thing. Also, I’m not going to quote a post from 6 years ago but in the original series it was Fred and Daphne. They were always coupled up and dancing. Whoever said in the original it was Shaphne? Lol. Hannah Barbara was Fraphne. I mean it was kinda shown in the series. There was little nods and hints in the show that kinda pushed the idea that Shaggy and Daphne was a couple. You have to remember, 13th Ghost was release in a different time. A kids show showing two teenagers having a very close and personal relationship wasn't very common and would have probably gotten the show canceled. The show was already getting attacked by Christian group for declaring that it was promoting Satanism, so they probably didn't want to risk it and kept the hints small.
If the creator confirms something, then its true, even if you don't like the idea it still canon. I think most people who are really interested in this whole shipping think believe during HB era that it started out Fraphne and then went Shaphne. That why people say HB is Shaphne because it ended that way.
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Post by Doo on Nov 12, 2018 11:55:59 GMT -5
I didn’t know it was his email. My thoughts won’t go over well here but I’ll post them. Tom has no part in the movie so it will retcon that away anyway. Not to mention it was never shown on screen. I just need to stop trying to make sense of Scooby Canon. That’s my issue with all this. If 13 Ghosts is now canon with the DTVs. It’s canon Fred and Daphne love each other. But also she was with Shaggy? WTF! Obviously if Tom wanted them together.. he did a crappy job showing it... having to confirm it by email almost 34 years later. 😂 I have a right to find it curious.. he does this after the fact. When it’s clearly not shown on screen during 13 ghosts. If he truly meant for them to be together? Obviously a ton of people missed it and didn’t see it. Only a few people with other crazy theories ever speculated it. From what it looks like they’ve already retconned the series by saying Fred and Velma were at camp. And if Tom isn’t even involved. His saying they were together means nothing. Tom is irrelevant in Scooby canon now anyway. Regardless.. I think we can all agree Scooby continuity is exhausting to figure out. Now that they are trying to entwine all the shows with the tv shows. I refuse to believe Daphne is in love with Fred and vice versa (Stage Fright) but also dated Shaggy (13 Ghosts) and now they are both connected (Curse of 13 ghosts). So Tom can say what he wants. He didn’t show it in the series and he’s not involved with the DTVs or the series currently. If it’s not shown.. it’s not canon. He could have thought that but he obviously didn’t follow through with it. All that matters is Tom has no influence. And by this email. That’s a great thing. Also, I’m not going to quote a post from 6 years ago but in the original series it was Fred and Daphne. They were always coupled up and dancing. Whoever said in the original it was Shaphne? Lol. Hannah Barbara was Fraphne. I mean, I guess I took the email to just be a general "yeah, we kinda thought of Daphne and Shaggy together in an unspoken sense" and not this huge "this is what we've been waiting for 34 years!" moment. If that were the case, Tom would have taken to a much more public forum to confirm it rather than a one-word reply to someone's email. It could be just Tom's frame of mind when he was writing the series as well. This is just my opinion, but I would take the email as just a confirmation that the creator's mindset when writing the series was that Shaggy and Daphne were together, not an Earth-shattering revelation or something that Tom's been waiting to reveal for the last 34 years. (Hopefully that makes sense)
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Post by slicknickshady on Nov 12, 2018 12:06:00 GMT -5
I’ll have to disagree futurerocker. I think HB was clearly Fraphne. But we’ll never know.
And yeah Doo. I think that’s a great point. It wasn’t official. That’s just the mindset he had. But regardless we’ll see what this movie does. Since Tom isn’t involved. It will likely make some things clear. If not.. Scooby continuity is complicated.
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Nov 12, 2018 12:56:32 GMT -5
Only early HB was Fraphne and Shelma. Later HB is Shaphne.
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Shaphne
Nov 12, 2018 13:14:30 GMT -5
Post by slicknickshady on Nov 12, 2018 13:14:30 GMT -5
Only early HB was Fraphne and Shelma. Later HB is Shaphne. Disagree. There is no proof of this. Just because Fred is absent. Doesn’t automatically make it Shaphne. Lol.
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Shaphne
Nov 12, 2018 13:27:34 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by russm on Nov 12, 2018 13:27:34 GMT -5
Can we not have a ship war please.
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Shaphne
Nov 12, 2018 13:35:27 GMT -5
Post by slicknickshady on Nov 12, 2018 13:35:27 GMT -5
Can we not have a ship war please. No war here. There’s just no evidence.
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Shaphne
Nov 12, 2018 13:37:13 GMT -5
Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Nov 12, 2018 13:37:13 GMT -5
Can we not have a ship war please. No war here. There’s just no evidence. Being confrontational and demanding "evidence" for whether fictional characters are in love is the very definition of a ship war
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Shaphne
Nov 12, 2018 14:22:31 GMT -5
Post by slicknickshady on Nov 12, 2018 14:22:31 GMT -5
No war here. There’s just no evidence. Being confrontational and demanding "evidence" for whether fictional characters are in love is the very definition of a ship war Lol. No it’s not. It’s stating a fact. There is no evidence.
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Shaphne
Nov 13, 2018 23:50:29 GMT -5
Post by futurerocker on Nov 13, 2018 23:50:29 GMT -5
I’ll have to disagree futurerocker. I think HB was clearly Fraphne. But we’ll never know. And yeah Doo. I think that’s a great point. It wasn’t official. That’s just the mindset he had. But regardless we’ll see what this movie does. Since Tom isn’t involved. It will likely make some things clear. If not.. Scooby continuity is complicated. Too be honest, I don't think HB is either. None of the series showed any solid proof that any of the characters were in a romantic relationship. The whole romance subplot started with Zombie Island and took off from their and that was the beginning of WBA. So, i'm gonna disagree with HB being Fraphne
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Nov 14, 2018 11:50:06 GMT -5
I’ll have to disagree futurerocker. I think HB was clearly Fraphne. But we’ll never know. And yeah Doo. I think that’s a great point. It wasn’t official. That’s just the mindset he had. But regardless we’ll see what this movie does. Since Tom isn’t involved. It will likely make some things clear. If not.. Scooby continuity is complicated. Too be honest, I don't think HB is either. None of the series showed any solid proof that any of the characters were in a romantic relationship. The whole romance subplot started with Zombie Island and took off from their and that was the beginning of WBA. So, i'm gonna disagree with HB being Fraphne I think Where Are You was Fraphne but in the same sense that 13 Ghosts was Shaphne. It was in the back of the writers minds but not really something they felt like exploring. Post-WAY though? Nah.
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Shaphne
Nov 14, 2018 12:36:48 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by russm on Nov 14, 2018 12:36:48 GMT -5
Well as for comics Scooby Apocalypse is now 100% shelma.
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Shaphne
Nov 14, 2018 15:57:12 GMT -5
Post by manbearpig on Nov 14, 2018 15:57:12 GMT -5
Too be honest, I don't think HB is either. None of the series showed any solid proof that any of the characters were in a romantic relationship. The whole romance subplot started with Zombie Island and took off from their and that was the beginning of WBA. So, i'm gonna disagree with HB being Fraphne I think Where Are You was Fraphne but in the same sense that 13 Ghosts was Shaphne. It was in the back of the writers minds but not really something they felt like exploring. Post-WAY though? Nah. Same with Shelma in SDWAY. As far as I know, the creators, after denying gossips of Velma's lesbian orientation, admited that they intended Shaggy and Velma to be a couple. It was abandoned later, but it doesn't change the fact that they had it in the back of their minds.
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