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Shaphne
Sept 20, 2018 10:11:39 GMT -5
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Post by russm on Sept 20, 2018 10:11:39 GMT -5
You know that there a few people who think every time that Shaggy and Daphne are next to each other that they automatically assume that there both dating or like each other. Yes, hence my comment above. It just amuses me that some people will think along the lines of "there was a close-up of Shaggy's face, and then they switched to a close-up of Daphne's face! That must be the writers hinting that they're secretly in love!" There's a whole Tumblr blog like this with 'Frelma and Shaphne moments in...' of highly edited screeencaps.
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Shaphne
Sept 20, 2018 10:25:55 GMT -5
Post by Doo on Sept 20, 2018 10:25:55 GMT -5
Yes, hence my comment above. It just amuses me that some people will think along the lines of "there was a close-up of Shaggy's face, and then they switched to a close-up of Daphne's face! That must be the writers hinting that they're secretly in love!" There's a whole Tumblr blog like this with 'Frelma and Shaphne moments in...' of highly edited screeencaps. Would you mind providing a link? I could use a good laugh.
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Post by Doo on Sept 20, 2018 10:49:03 GMT -5
Never mind, found it. That's some serious dedication for that person to literally go through every episode just to find times where Shaggy and Daphne / Fred and Velma happen to be standing next to one another lol. Have to say this is my favorite photo though, pretty much sums up that whole Tumblr.
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Shaphne
Sept 20, 2018 22:23:33 GMT -5
Post by futurerocker on Sept 20, 2018 22:23:33 GMT -5
Never mind, found it. That's some serious dedication for that person to literally go through every episode just to find times where Shaggy and Daphne / Fred and Velma happen to be standing next to one another lol. Have to say this is my favorite photo though, pretty much sums up that whole Tumblr. I don't want to be too mean and be like this whole blog is a waste of time because this person has clearly put in a lot of work in creating this, but I find it ironic that he/she posted about Mystery Incorporated which would be at the bottom of my list for anything related to Shaphne. I mean Daphne was obsessed with Fred in this series.
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Shaphne
Sept 21, 2018 9:27:47 GMT -5
Post by Doo on Sept 21, 2018 9:27:47 GMT -5
Never mind, found it. That's some serious dedication for that person to literally go through every episode just to find times where Shaggy and Daphne / Fred and Velma happen to be standing next to one another lol. Have to say this is my favorite photo though, pretty much sums up that whole Tumblr. I don't want to be too mean and be like this whole blog is a waste of time because this person has clearly put in a lot of work in creating this, but I find it ironic that he/she posted about Mystery Incorporated which would be at the bottom of my list for anything related to Shaphne. I mean Daphne was obsessed with Fred in this series. Agreed, wasn't trying to be mean about it. I just find it amusing in general how people take scenes way out of context to confirm their preferred romantic pairing.
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Shaphne
Sept 21, 2018 23:18:25 GMT -5
Post by futurerocker on Sept 21, 2018 23:18:25 GMT -5
I don't want to be too mean and be like this whole blog is a waste of time because this person has clearly put in a lot of work in creating this, but I find it ironic that he/she posted about Mystery Incorporated which would be at the bottom of my list for anything related to Shaphne. I mean Daphne was obsessed with Fred in this series. Agreed, wasn't trying to be mean about it. I just find it amusing in general how people take scenes way out of context to confirm their preferred romantic pairing. I wasn't saying you guys were being mean, sorry if it came out that way and it is funny how people will look at one scene where they stand next to each other and blow it out of proportions and say that they are dating.
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Shaphne
Sept 22, 2018 17:06:41 GMT -5
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Sept 22, 2018 17:06:41 GMT -5
Instead, Daphne should be portrayed in future Scooby media like how Space Jam (and, to an extent, The Looney Tunes Show) handled Daffy Duck. I saw somewhere online where an animation fan or film critic praised that film for its seamless blending of wild/zany/looney Daffy and wisecracking/angry/jealous Daffy. In no way am I suggesting or further condoning jealous Daphne; I'm just saying that a good, properly written mixture of 80's Daphne (serious/strong) and BCSD Daphne (comedic but not overdone, and hasn't it already been established that she lowkey rivals Shaggy/Scooby when it comes to eating?) is needed. Yeah. I would like to see a combination of 80's and Be Cool (but not too far) Daphne. This is probably how she would be today if they continued on with the Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy and Daphne format.
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Post by Doo on Sept 22, 2018 21:36:21 GMT -5
Instead, Daphne should be portrayed in future Scooby media like how Space Jam (and, to an extent, The Looney Tunes Show) handled Daffy Duck. I saw somewhere online where an animation fan or film critic praised that film for its seamless blending of wild/zany/looney Daffy and wisecracking/angry/jealous Daffy. In no way am I suggesting or further condoning jealous Daphne; I'm just saying that a good, properly written mixture of 80's Daphne (serious/strong) and BCSD Daphne (comedic but not overdone, and hasn't it already been established that she lowkey rivals Shaggy/Scooby when it comes to eating?) is needed. Yeah. I would like to see a combination of 80's and Be Cool (but not too far) Daphne. This is probably how she would be today if they continued on with the Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy and Daphne format. I definitely agree with this. A strong liberated Daphne with a bit of a quirky side would be awesome to see!
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Shaphne
Sept 23, 2018 11:41:47 GMT -5
Post by lightbrownhair on Sept 23, 2018 11:41:47 GMT -5
Personally i love Shaphne, i love them as friends, i love the Daphne/Shaggy/Scooby/Scrappy quator (they had an excellent chemistry), and i would love to see them closer in a future serie, and i can see Shaggy and Daphne to be together (as a couple) in the 1980 series (of after), i think they make a compatible pairing (much more than Shaggy and Velma). But i can't see them with romantic feeling for each other and even less become a couple in the series with Fred and Velma in it. I think with the whole team together, it's more natural to see Daphne with Fred because their couple is more etablished (while there was never real proof that in the 1980 series, there was more than a strong friendship or a brother/sister relationship between Daphne and Shaggy. She seem a little too bossy toward Shaggy and Scooby to be in love, i think.)
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Post by futurerocker on Sept 23, 2018 23:59:19 GMT -5
I think the problem with Daphne in Be Cool is that instead of developing her character as goofy and sometimes wacky, which I'm sure in previous season she was, they completely rewritten her character as a overly eccentric and wacky character. They got rid of a lot of her traits from previous series and just changed her into a bigger goofy person. More goofy than Scooby and Shaggy. When you completely rewrite a character a large amount of fans are not going to be pleased and I think that why there is a large push back towards Be Cool Daphne. If they kept traits from previous shows and didn't make her too overly eccentric then I feel more people would be more accepting of her.
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Shaphne
Nov 10, 2018 19:12:42 GMT -5
Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Nov 10, 2018 19:12:42 GMT -5
Through my extensive research (by which I mean bugging Tom Ruegger about it) I have finally discovered concrete proof that Shaggy & Daphne were a couple on The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo
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Shaphne
Nov 11, 2018 1:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by slicknickshady on Nov 11, 2018 1:08:32 GMT -5
I highly doubt that’s from Tom.
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Shaphne
Nov 11, 2018 10:13:10 GMT -5
Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Nov 11, 2018 10:13:10 GMT -5
I highly doubt that’s from Tom. <iframe width="12.899999999999977" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 12.899999999999977px; height: 2.9200000000000017px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_56996388" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="12.899999999999977" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 12.9px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 597px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_70713873" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="12.899999999999977" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 12.9px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_41671237" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="12.899999999999977" height="2.9200000000000017" style="position: absolute; width: 12.9px; height: 2.92px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 597px; top: 87px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_14681688" scrolling="no"></iframe> I know Tom. I literally conducted an entire interview with him: scoobydoo.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TheAtomicLight/An_Interview_With..._Tom_Ruegger
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Post by Doo on Nov 11, 2018 11:09:34 GMT -5
I highly doubt that’s from Tom. Just to provide a second voice here, I've talked to Tom via email as well (for a short interview last summer), so I don't doubt that it's him.
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Post by slicknickshady on Nov 11, 2018 14:41:57 GMT -5
I didn’t know it was his email. My thoughts won’t go over well here but I’ll post them.
Tom has no part in the movie so it will retcon that away anyway. Not to mention it was never shown on screen.
I just need to stop trying to make sense of Scooby Canon. That’s my issue with all this. If 13 Ghosts is now canon with the DTVs. It’s canon Fred and Daphne love each other. But also she was with Shaggy? WTF!
Obviously if Tom wanted them together.. he did a crappy job showing it... having to confirm it by email almost 34 years later. 😂
I have a right to find it curious.. he does this after the fact. When it’s clearly not shown on screen during 13 ghosts. If he truly meant for them to be together? Obviously a ton of people missed it and didn’t see it. Only a few people with other crazy theories ever speculated it.
From what it looks like they’ve already retconned the series by saying Fred and Velma were at camp. And if Tom isn’t even involved. His saying they were together means nothing. Tom is irrelevant in Scooby canon now anyway.
Regardless.. I think we can all agree Scooby continuity is exhausting to figure out. Now that they are trying to entwine all the shows with the tv shows.
I refuse to believe Daphne is in love with Fred and vice versa (Stage Fright) but also dated Shaggy (13 Ghosts) and now they are both connected (Curse of 13 ghosts). So Tom can say what he wants. He didn’t show it in the series and he’s not involved with the DTVs or the series currently.
If it’s not shown.. it’s not canon. He could have thought that but he obviously didn’t follow through with it.
All that matters is Tom has no influence. And by this email. That’s a great thing.
Also, I’m not going to quote a post from 6 years ago but in the original series it was Fred and Daphne. They were always coupled up and dancing. Whoever said in the original it was Shaphne? Lol. Hannah Barbara was Fraphne.
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