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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 17:54:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 17:55:12 GMT -5
Series is enough. Now I just achieved pericles
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Post by Grumpydrawer on Jun 6, 2016 18:56:50 GMT -5
Well there's 52 episodes, right? While I too enjoy Be Cool I'm not sure if we need 78 episodes of it, 52 is fine in my book at least. I doubt we'll get a 2018 series to give space between Be Cool and whatever they air for the supposed 50th anniversary. If Cartoon Network ever gets to airing all the episodes...
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Post by Soupperson on Jun 7, 2016 2:52:03 GMT -5
Series is enough. Now I just achieved pericles While it's great you achieved Pericles can you just wait until you get it instead of entering in two word answers of the same sentence, it makes things harder to read!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 6:27:49 GMT -5
I know, that posting was me being silly with it. Normally I won't be posting like that, I just wanted to have some fun with it.
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Post by doobert on Jun 8, 2016 21:18:11 GMT -5
This article touches on some good points, but there are some points and errors, I'd like to make.
Scooby Doo Where Are You only lasted two seasons not because of ratings, it was actually still popular, but because back then cartoons only ran for 16 season episodes, due to limitation in animation. Notice how most cartoon back then, especially Hanna Barbera programs never lasted more then a season. Scooby-Doo was popular enough to get two seasons, which was rare for any cartoons in the 60's and 70's. Same with The New Scooby Doo movies. It wasn't until the 1976 to 1978 Scooby Doo Show episodes, which was renamed from season to season, did the ratings for the show, really start to slip, and that's where the creation of Scrappy came in.
The reason why most Scooby Doo shows never last more then two seasons, especially nowadays, is because they're produced and made by WB's animation department, and they tend to only make 52 to 65 episodes of a cartoon, before tossing those aside for the next installment of their popular franchises like Scooby, Batman, or Tom & Jerry.
Again, it's a well-written article, but there is an actual reason why Scooby-Doo shows barely last two seasons, and ratings usually have very little to do with it.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jun 8, 2016 22:28:11 GMT -5
It also doesn't help in this case, while there are "official" accounting records not everyone agrees on how they put the dividing lines on the different series. As a result some may be counting The Scooby Doo/Dynomutt Hour as a 1 season show, while others count that season as a part of The Scooby Doo Show.
It was typical for Hanna Barbera to take their popular characters across many different shows over the years. Some variations worked better than others, but Saturday Morning was very cut throat to getting things cancelled. Scooby as a franchise was rarely in that much danger but some of his shows ended to make way for the next alteration in the formula. And in a lot of cases even with a lack of "new" Scooby. Scooby reruns were still there as well.
Not to mention not every show gets the same kind of orders. A Pup Named Scooby Doo for example had plenty of times to get renewed but in those later seasons the episodes they ordered at a time were very few. In which case some would count by total episodes orders while some would count by number of orders made.
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Post by Eli Frost on Jun 9, 2016 19:29:50 GMT -5
I hope Be Cool doesn't end soon. Although I enjoy seeing new takes on the show, I've been satisfied with BCSD above all other incarnations of the show. Well there's 52 episodes, right? While I too enjoy Be Cool I'm not sure if we need 78 episodes of it, 52 is fine in my book at least. I doubt we'll get a 2018 series to give space between Be Cool and whatever they air for the supposed 50th anniversary. I think that 52 episodes is great. I also personally love Be Cool Scooby Doo. It's a good series and probably my second favorite, the favorite being What's New, Scooby Doo.
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Post by Eli Frost on Jun 9, 2016 19:30:27 GMT -5
Do we really want 100 episodes of M.I.? I certainly don't. It will be interesting to see what they do for the anniversary series, because apart from What's New (which just captured the original format in modern times) everything has put a new spin on the formula. If we do get our first fourth series with a continuation of the original let's hope for a decent Daphne. Yeah. I really didn't like Mystery Incorporated but I think it stopped at a good time.
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Post by Doo on Jun 13, 2016 11:12:43 GMT -5
Very interesting article! An interesting article. The Scooby-Doo franchise is an enormous and expansive pop culture staple: it boasts feature length films, animated TV series, comics, toys, games, and tangential merchandise. For 47 years, the animated, lovable Great Dane Scooby has solved mysteries with his crew. It’s a weird and unexplained detail that only two out of the 15 different animated Scooby series have ever made it past a second season before cancellation... www.inverse.com/article/15431-scooby-dooby-doo-where-are-you-why-are-your-animated-series-so-short-nowIt is indeed an interesting article. Though I thought the SD Show also had three seasons, not just A Pup and WNSD. It technically did have three seasons, but unfortunately it gets kind of confusing with that series because some consider each season it's own show (for example: Season 1 is The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Hour, Season 2 is part of Laff-a-Lympics, and Season 3 is part of Scooby-Doo, Where Are You). Same with Scooby and Scrappy-Doo, some consider the programming blocks (i.e. The Richie Rich/Scooby-Doo Show, The Scooby, Scrappy, and Puppy Hour) as separate shows and some consider it as just one show "Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo." I'm guessing the writer of the article thinks of the programming blocks each as a show. Although the one thing I noticed that was wrong is that the person said The New Scooby-Doo Movies ended in 1974, when it actually ended in October 1973.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 11:55:53 GMT -5
^The Scooby-Doo show is a bit weird billing because it was always supposed to be the SDS but someone thought it was s3 of WAY, part of DinoMutt or part of All Stars/Laff a Lympics. Personally I think it should have been running outside of All Stars to avoid confusion and only aired as the SDS in a 1hr block back then.
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Post by Doo on Jun 13, 2016 13:12:14 GMT -5
^The Scooby-Doo show is a bit weird billing because it was always supposed to be the SDS but someone thought it was s3 of WAY, part of DinoMutt or part of All Stars/Laff a Lympics. Personally I think it should have been running outside of All Stars to avoid confusion and only aired as the SDS in a 1hr block back then. I think the Where are You Season 3 stuff started back in 2007 when WB decided to market the third season of The SD Show as a third season of "lost episodes" from Where Are You, despite that the DVD had the SD Show intro for all the episodes.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jun 13, 2016 17:04:59 GMT -5
Back in those days those group programs were more in style. You could sell multiple shows in one package to encourage kids to stay and watch the whole block. Such practices died out with syndication and cable where it became the norm to break these shows down into the respective half hour components.
The Scooby Doo Show's part came from the third season originally did try to air in a half hour slot as a third season of Where Are You, but it didn't work and those new episodes that remained originally returned to airing on All Stars.
I've gone off on this before, but I think part of this decision came from the people who get downright aggressive on shows only being released "as originally aired". Which I think is the major reason some of these shows got grouped back into (correctly or incorrectly) their blocks. Instead of the much more now recognizable half hour spots.
The dang Scooby Doo Show season 2 and Dynomutt's season 2 are kind of weirdly still stuck in that rut probably from some of those decisions that went down waaaaaaaaaay back when they first started doing the dvds.
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Post by Grumpydrawer on Jun 13, 2016 20:27:48 GMT -5
It technically did have three seasons, but unfortunately it gets kind of confusing with that series because some consider each season it's own show (for example: Season 1 is The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Hour, Season 2 is part of Laff-a-Lympics, and Season 3 is part of Scooby-Doo, Where Are You). Same with Scooby and Scrappy-Doo, some consider the programming blocks (i.e. The Richie Rich/Scooby-Doo Show, The Scooby, Scrappy, and Puppy Hour) as separate shows and some consider it as just one show "Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo." I'm guessing the writer of the article thinks of the programming blocks each as a show. Ah so I was correct then then. As far as I'm concerned though I just deem the three seasons of the SD Show as it's own show, since that's how I orignally saw them as a kid in the late 90s/early 2000s. No Dynomutt alongside it (to be honest I don't believe I've ever even seen the Dynomutt show in my life). I remember that tripped me up a bit when buying the Sd Show DVDs initally. What with how it was marketed as Season 3 of SDWAY. Quite misleading on WB's part.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 20:53:08 GMT -5
It's unnerving, that's for sure. WB should have just left it alone as "The Scooby-Doo Show".
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