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Post by wileyk209 on Mar 11, 2024 8:24:57 GMT -5
It's wild to realize that Hanna-Barbera pioneered digipaint and even a rough hardware form of Macromedia Flash animation way back in the '80s. It's baffling to me that they wouldn't save some kind of unpainted version on tape first, but then again... they were just making this for airing on TV at the time. Even Wall-E wasn't rendered in 4K; it's hard to predict the future. Indeed. I heard somewhere the developers of that computer system initially tried to sell such a computer to Disney at first, but they turned it down, partly due to its' limitations and partly due to Disney's financial woes at the time (back in the early 80s, they were struggling like they are today). They had much better luck with Hanna-Barbera, who was always trying to find innovative ways to streamline television animation production. Yeah, and I also really doubt the original animation files that were loaded into Hanna-Barbera's computer still exist anymore. I remember how when Disney remastered most of their renaissance-era animated features, they re-rendered the digital animation files from their own computer system at the time (known as C.A.P.S.: the Computer Animation Production System) and sourced the DVD and Blu-ray releases directly from them, even with their recent 4K remasters! (Only "The Rescuers Down Under", their first all digitally-colored animated feature, has not had such a remaster yet, since it was the only Disney renaissance movie to bomb at the box-office, so current releases are still sourced from a 35mm film print.) But imagine if deep in the Warner/H-B archives they found such digital animation files and attempted to get them working on a modern Toon Boom system or something... |
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Post by Ark on Mar 11, 2024 22:39:33 GMT -5
Funny you mentioned CAPS, I just learned about it from this Lion King article. I was curious why the HD version of it looked so odd and had no idea it was digitally colored, probably not much different than Hanna-Barbera's method, but they did it in HD and backed it all up and made high resolution real film prints. To be clear, the backgrounds and other layered elements were still cels I think, but the characters and moving parts were digitally colored I guess? www.theringer.com/movies/2019/7/19/20699678/the-lion-king-original-animation-1994 |
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Post by wileyk209 on Mar 14, 2024 12:04:50 GMT -5
Funny you mentioned CAPS, I just learned about it from this Lion King article. I was curious why the HD version of it looked so odd and had no idea it was digitally colored, probably not much different than Hanna-Barbera's method, but they did it in HD and backed it all up and made high resolution real film prints. To be clear, the backgrounds and other layered elements were still cels I think, but the characters and moving parts were digitally colored I guess? www.theringer.com/movies/2019/7/19/20699678/the-lion-king-original-animation-1994The backgrounds were all hand-painted, but the characters and any props that get used were digitally colored and composited. During the 80s and 90s, even when using a digital ink-and-paint system, backgrounds were still generally painted by hand. (Even some cartoons in the 2000s were like this; the last "Peanuts" specials by Bill Melendez were digitally colored and composited, but used the watercolor backgrounds that were a staple of most "Peanuts" specials.) They simply scan the hand-painted backgrounds into the computer to use as a background layer. And yeah, the Disney animated features that used CAPS, their original video and laserdisc releases were made from 35mm film prints, so it's not as obvious compared to later DVDs and Blu-rays and such remastering the movies from the original CAPS animation files. ("The Rescuers Down Under" is still mastered from a film print, but when viewing it in HD at times you can tell it was digitally colored.) |
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Scoobster96
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20 years a Scooby fan and still loving it!
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Post by Scoobster96 on Mar 14, 2024 21:08:02 GMT -5
Just wanted to share a music vid I made using the Goes Hollywood restoration. One thing that I noticed during the making of this video is that when Scooby is walking though the crowd in the Black Top Hat restaurant there's some small holes in the red paint on his jacket that seems to have peeled off of the cell a little, at first I thought it was pixelation, but no its just part of the cell animation. I don't know whether it was noticeable on the DVD beforehand, but I just thought it was an interesting little detail.
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Post by Ark on Mar 14, 2024 22:09:50 GMT -5
Yeah, there's definitely something going on with his red coat at 1:30ish. Nice music video; it fits the era
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