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Post by Ark on Feb 20, 2024 15:15:22 GMT -5
So, Amazon is giving no date suddenly and apparently has already sold out of their entire stock for this already! I'm thinking that this sold far better than anyone at Warner expected it to. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CT3X1WZM/
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Post by Doo on Feb 20, 2024 18:40:12 GMT -5
So, Amazon is giving no date suddenly and apparently has already sold out of their entire stock for this already! I'm thinking that this sold far better than anyone at Warner expected it to. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CT3X1WZM/It's showing February 20 for me now, but I think that date may be wrong. Warner Archive's announcement on Facebook (linked earlier in this thread) said February 27, and I can't imagine they wouldn't have made an announcement if the date was moved up by a week. I guess it could be a glitch on Amazon's part? I'm not really sure.
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Post by Ark on Feb 20, 2024 21:01:40 GMT -5
Amazon said the 20th in the sense that they'd have it ready to distribute but the official release date may have shipping time factored in. People are already showing off pictures of the disc cases and menus, but they may actually be sellers who aren't supposed to be distributing them quite yet. My shipping date just got bumped to March. Regardless, I'm excited!
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Scoobster96
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Post by Scoobster96 on Feb 20, 2024 21:38:24 GMT -5
So I guess we will both be getting our copies around the same time then. I got my shipping confirmation this morning saying all three will arrive on the first Thursday of March.
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Scoobster96
Red Herring
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Post by Scoobster96 on Feb 29, 2024 21:29:44 GMT -5
Look what just arrived in the mail today! You've got to hand it to Australia Post, when its something coming from interstate it takes them forever to get it to you, but when its an international package they don't mess around. I think this is the first time I've received an Amazon US delivery before the estimated date. Nearly a whole week before the estimation! My weekend will be set for entertainment this week!
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Post by Ark on Feb 29, 2024 21:39:50 GMT -5
Very nice. Got mine just recently as well. It shipped through UPS, which often does a better job than the standard post office, which is really nice. Glad nothing came broken! This weekend I'm at least going to watch Reluctant Werewolf. It's surreal that this happened.
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Post by CommanderKarateOtter on Feb 29, 2024 21:40:42 GMT -5
It's interesting seeing who get their orders when considering they seem to have sold out on preorders. I have heard of some people having their date be in mid may.
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Post by Ark on Feb 29, 2024 21:57:44 GMT -5
Amazon seemingly permanently raised the price by nearly twenty dollars after the first batch sold out. I think the demand shocked not only Warner but them as well. I'm very glad my preorder wasn't brushed off by them. You haven't gotten one you preordered yet? Undoubtedly it sold out quickly. I've heard that Amazon puts items in certain warehouses even before they are ordered, just based on users' history and items held in the digital cart. It's possible that they just sent out what they had nearest ready to go and ran out. I'm really unsure. Like Doo pointed out, it's odd that this was released before the release date in some areas. There's certainly some unknowns with this.
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Post by Ark on Mar 2, 2024 20:34:37 GMT -5
Hope the upscale of Reluctant Werewolf is competent. Not one much can do with that title. So, it looks pretty good but it has this odd flicker to it. Some scenes look absolutely fantastic while others look only a hint better than the DVD, but they do look better. I'm actually beginning to think that some of the flicker and cell ghosting is inherent to the film master itself, and obviously the 1" final output tape resolution was not very high to begin with. I believe Warner Archive when they say that they tried everything and I can confirm that it's thankfully not a blurred mess of an upscale like some of the "Ruh Roh Robots" DVD episodes. Detail is far easier to notice in many scenes and the backgrounds really stand out. I'm not sure I even recall being able to read the signs in the grocery store scene in the past and they're fully legible here. One sad downside to all of this is that there is heavy DRM encrypted into the disc itself and I have no idea how to even take a screenshot. I'm very curious how others were able to do that but obviously we can't discuss that here. Overall, this is an interesting release. It sets a baseline for how Warner could potentially upscale other late '80s digipaint shows and film.
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Post by Ark on Mar 2, 2024 22:49:50 GMT -5
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Post by CommanderKarateOtter on Mar 8, 2024 1:11:42 GMT -5
I think the most obvious difference is that colours are much better and I would assume that they are closer to what they were originally on the negatives (If their scan of the Jetsons four years ago is anything to go by). Thanks for posting these images for comparison as they show how the Archive runs circles around the Home Media division, you can see there is more detail visible on the Hollywood images. That being said I think for all the faults of the 2019 blu-ray the color is not one of them. While the colors on the right are technically more accurate to the negatives, from my understanding as the negative age they gain a red tint and it looks like that may be the case as it looks to be a slightly pink tint in the top image with Scooby. Chorake made of comparison of the 1998 and 2004 remasters a few years back www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEczJ-v3ck8&t=75s and at about 1:06 we can see the shot you have of Scooby. The 1998 remaster clearly looks a lot more red at this point which would make sense given the only 10 year gap between WAY and Hollywood, opposed to the near 30 year gap of the 98 remaster. Meaning the colors on the WAY blu-ray are the correct ones. Though its possible the 2004 over corrected the colors to be too blue, but if that's the case than the issue with the colors is with the 2004 remaster given that's what was used for the blu-ray release.
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Post by Ark on Mar 8, 2024 15:50:51 GMT -5
Yes, Chorake also pointed out that Boo Brothers was edited to be very dark-blue when Ted Turner was in charge. It shouldn't be surprising since he colorized a ton of old black & white films, much to universal dismay. This is very interesting. The fact that we got Goes Hollywood in such a beautiful raw form (bumpers and all) has made the film far more intriguing to me.
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Post by wileyk209 on Mar 10, 2024 10:11:31 GMT -5
I now have the Bly-ray releases of "Rockin' With Judy Jetson", "Scooby-Doo and the Ghoul School" and "Scooby-Doo and the Reluctant Werewolf!" Naturally, the first two look fantastic, being restored from the original animation negatives. Even "Scooby-Doo and the Reluctant Werewolf" got a significant upgrade. There's a disclaimer before the movie begins that's also printed on the back of the case: "SCOOBY-DOO AND THE RELUCTANT WEREWOLF was one of two of the "Superstars 10" telefilms Hanna-Barbera produced using an early form of digital ink and paint, and was output to a final 1" videotape master with no film protection of any kind. This presentation has been up-converted from its original analog standard definition master to digital High-Definition, with every effort made to improve the visual quality of the program." And while it's not perfect, it's a noticeable improvement over the old DVD and Boomerang prints. The colors are more vibrant, and there's far less video noise, though there are a few occasional blurry moments, and occasional bits where the limitations of Hanna-Barbera's computer system at the time really show: Unfortunately, the closing Hanna-Barbera logo is still plastered with the 1979 version, with blacked-out bylines (rather than the 1986 CGI version that was in use at the time this movie was made, and was also used at the end of the other Hanna-Barbera Superstars 10 movies on Blu-ray, to my knwoledge).
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Post by Ark on Mar 10, 2024 12:04:50 GMT -5
I remember the first time I watched the Reluctant Werewolf DVD on a high definition screen and was puzzled at how strange it looked compared to the other Scooby releases. It's wild to realize that Hanna-Barbera pioneered digipaint and even a rough hardware form of Macromedia Flash animation way back in the '80s. It's baffling to me that they wouldn't save some kind of unpainted version on tape first, but then again... they were just making this for airing on TV at the time. Even Wall-E wasn't rendered in 4K; it's hard to predict the future.
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