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Post by Doo on Feb 23, 2021 15:38:16 GMT -5
I really liked this film! I was a little surprised how much Thundarr the Barbarian was referenced, but I enjoyed all the different references in the film. Both settings felt very mysterious and were a great example of the setting being worked into the plot really well. I found myself enjoying Velma's characterization way more in this film and I didn't find her obnoxious like the last 3 films, even though she was still skeptical. It was cool learning more about Shaggy's ancestry as well, even if we didn't get to meet any more of his family members. I enjoyed Morgan Le Fay's ghost as a villain, and the Black Knight was pretty neat too especially when it was revealed he was just a skull. The only part I didn't like were how they made Merlin kinda ridiculous and Daphne's quirkiness. I loved her personality in Be Cool and Happy Halloween, but in this film, it just felt kinda forced. Overall, a really good film though and I'd say it's as good as Happy Halloween. I didn't even mind the fact that they had the time travel be fake. I thought the explanation for why it was fake made sense and it didn't feel like a big cop-out like Return to Zombie Island or Curse of the 13th Ghost.
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Feb 23, 2021 17:26:57 GMT -5
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Post by scooby726 on Feb 23, 2021 17:26:57 GMT -5
This movie was actually quite good! As already said, although Velma was as always so skeptical, this time was quite funny. I also liked how the gang enjoyed they vacations and they interacted with eachother. This movie kinda gave me a Abracadabra-Doo vibe and enjoyed the jokes in it. I don't know if you noticed the joke with King Arthur and Fred's father which was a reference to SMDI. All in all a good movie like Happy Halloween as Doo said. It still isn't as good as Camp Scare for me but it can easily be in my top 10. I wonder how the next movie is going to be.
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Post by snesgamer83 on Feb 24, 2021 11:08:36 GMT -5
I did like that it softened Velma from the "I do everything because of scientific interest" version that's been solidified recently.
I love that she liked to watch Thundarr the Barbarian for... other reasons, lol.
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Feb 27, 2021 20:17:44 GMT -5
Post by wileyk209 on Feb 27, 2021 20:17:44 GMT -5
Am I the only one who noticed this movie had a much lighter visual tone compared to other recent direct-to-video movies? Compared to the more darker and moodier look said movies had, this one seemed more visually reminiscent of "What's New, Scooby-Doo?" and the other Sander Schwartz-era direct-to-video movies, albeit with the characters being designed in the 1970s Hanna-Barbera style instead of Warner's realistic "house" style of the 2000s (though "Legend of the Vampire" and "Monster of Mexico" had a much stronger Iwao Takamoto influence and involvement, and those two had the gang in their classic outfits like the recent movies have.) I was also surprised by the abundance of classic Hanna-Barbera sound effects, at times almost reaching "Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?" levels (I remember being particularly surprised to hear the classic Mystery Machine driving sound at interior shots of the vehicle, and when they'd open or close the Mystery Machine's doors they actually used H-B's old car door sound effects.) But this was not edited at Advantage Audio (who does "Guess Who?") but at Atlas Oceanic Sound and Picture/Sound Rebels. I'm pretty sure the sound effects designer/editor for this movie is the same one who's also been doing the sound effects for the "Animaniacs" revival at Sound Rebels, as the use of H-B and WB sound effects is pretty similar to that show (including often using that "Castle Thunder" variation H-B used a lot in the 1980s alongside those newer stock thunder and lightning sounds from the 1990s). I was also pretty surprised to hear Bob Clampett's classic "Beeo-woop!" sound effect accompany the iris-out at the end, like in Clampett's 1940s Looney Tunes cartoons! Yet they don't use that sound in the new "Looney Tunes Cartoons"... (But I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up in the "Animaniacs" revival though!) Velma's skepticism was still annoying as usual; I liked it better when Daphne was the skeptical one, especially in "A Pup Named Scooby-Doo." (Has Velma said "There are no such things as ghosts!" yet?) I did like how her "wizard" outfit resembled Mickey Mouse's outfit from "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" segment in "Fantasia!" (Wonder if this means we'll soon see a "Scoob-tasia?") I also wasn't too keen how they made Fred kind of a scatterbrained airhead again, similar to how he was in "What's New, Scooby-Doo?" and related movies and the first season of "Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated." They'd better not do the same thing to Lola Bunny again in "Space Jam: A New Legacy!" Overall, it was a pretty fun movie, even if I was mildly disappointed in that it was all an elaborate hoax/setup once again (well, except maybe Merlin...), knowing that WBA doesn't want to incorporate a lot of real supernatural elements into the franchise again like they did in the early direct-to-video movies. But I did enjoy the "Thundarr the Barbarian" references! Thundarr's actor was pretty cool. And I actually laughed when Velma first referred to Mr. H.B. by name!
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Feb 28, 2021 8:17:09 GMT -5
Post by scooby726 on Feb 28, 2021 8:17:09 GMT -5
Am I the only one who noticed this movie had a much lighter visual tone compared to other recent direct-to-video movies? Compared to the more darker and moodier look said movies had, this one seemed more visually reminiscent of "What's New, Scooby-Doo?" and the other Sander Schwartz-era direct-to-video movies, albeit with the characters being designed in the 1970s Hanna-Barbera style instead of Warner's realistic "house" style of the 2000s (though "Legend of the Vampire" and "Monster of Mexico" had a much stronger Iwao Takamoto influence and involvement, and those two had the gang in their classic outfits like the recent movies have.) I noticed that too. They looked pretty pale if you compare their skin color to the early 2010s era movies.
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Mar 11, 2021 16:22:00 GMT -5
Post by mattpricetime on Mar 11, 2021 16:22:00 GMT -5
I noticed the palette looked brighter especially in the opening. Overall I feel very similar to this movie as I did with Happy Halloween. It's overall still fun even if some parts of the writing just aren't working for me. Some of this clearly because I wasn't really a fan of Mystery Incorporated or Be Cool, so while references and uses to them are just as welcome as other shows, for me it's just not my preferred thing.
I was suspecting there was a hoax going on, once Arthur said demon dogs I put it together. But it was still a really fun adventure. Velma's getting better slowly but at some times sounds too much like people I argued with in college. Fred's picked up a lot of his doofiness again too. Seems like some feel they often need to fix or touch up the rest of the gang in comparison to Scooby and Shaggy.
One thing that bothered me both though is how fast and loose they were playing in regards to other properties and that carried over from Happy Halloween. it's one thing where in like The Flintstones, in one episode they watch Yogi Cave Bear and then in another episode Yogi swipes Fred's picnic basket. But I find it kind of odd how Scooby could be interacting with Batman's scarecrow but Bill Nye's background conversation implies someone's Aquaman costume is true to the "source". Or like how Captain Caveman is in the time travel montage but Barney Rubble is referenced as a fictional character. But then again I suppose this isn't new, as the later seasons of Yogi's Treasure Hunt would have characters cameo as themselves and play other roles without a worry.
One thing we can see is totally gone now is that the Ruby Spears characters are eligible for Hanna Barbera legacy shows now. I suspected this when one of WB's surveys included Ruby Spears names in a question of the HB brand. Them using Thundarr rather similarly to how they used Blue Falcon in an earlier movie. If Scoob gets sequels we should assume Ruby Spears characters are eligible.
But speaking of that, how exactly did Scoob get past this whole hoax mandate that seems to be still be in affect on the DTVS? I know i've written pages and pages detailing the shift of things going in Warner media but I still find this funny that there appears to be this rule for the franchise's dtv movies but somehow wasn't considered important on the big money theatrical.
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Mar 14, 2021 5:06:52 GMT -5
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Post by vakanai on Mar 14, 2021 5:06:52 GMT -5
I really liked this film! I was a little surprised how much Thundarr the Barbarian was referenced, but I enjoyed all the different references in the film. Both settings felt very mysterious and were a great example of the setting being worked into the plot really well. I found myself enjoying Velma's characterization way more in this film and I didn't find her obnoxious like the last 3 films, even though she was still skeptical. It was cool learning more about Shaggy's ancestry as well, even if we didn't get to meet any more of his family members. I enjoyed Morgan Le Fay's ghost as a villain, and the Black Knight was pretty neat too especially when it was revealed he was just a skull. The only part I didn't like were how they made Merlin kinda ridiculous and Daphne's quirkiness. I loved her personality in Be Cool and Happy Halloween, but in this film, it just felt kinda forced. Overall, a really good film though and I'd say it's as good as Happy Halloween. I didn't even mind the fact that they had the time travel be fake. I thought the explanation for why it was fake made sense and it didn't feel like a big cop-out like Return to Zombie Island or Curse of the 13th Ghost. My issue with Daphne wasn't her quirkiness - although I admit to fully disagreeing with the world is a simulation theory - but rather her skill. Mostly that she was just so good at all the knightly contests without explanation. I mean I don't require much explanation from my funny cartoons, but a throwaway line that she took horse riding and archery lessons at rich kid camp or something over the summers would have gone a long way. Like you don't just drop a specialized skill set like that in the plot and not give an explanation for it. At least the kicks and hand to hand at the end of that sequence I can headcanon that she still has the martial arts skills displayed back in Scooby-Doo! and the Samurai Sword. It's a small nitpick, but it is worth noting.
Nitpick aside a good showing. I don't mind Velma being skeptical, just stubborn, and here she was normal not dense stubborn. On the flip side I think she went a little too into the time travel bit when she accepted it, and I thought the phone battery dying bit was obvious, but that's fine. Definitely a much, much more enjoyable take on her just like Happy Halloween, so I'm a bit hopeful that the mistakes of Return to Zombie Island and Curse of the 13th Ghost are behind us. And her watching Thundarr for the abs was funny.
Somehow I can't believe that English real estate law works that way...
Overall, a fun, funny, enjoyable Scooby movie. Seems like the franchise has been course corrected and I'm a lot more optimistic on the films going forward. Anyone know when we might expect to get some news on the next release?
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Post by Doo on Mar 14, 2021 18:11:27 GMT -5
Anyone know when we might expect to get some news on the next release? I'd assume maybe summer or late fall, but I'm not really sure. It's rumored that the Courage crossover film is going to be the next one.
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Mar 23, 2021 6:32:32 GMT -5
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Post by ruben MG on Mar 23, 2021 6:32:32 GMT -5
"sword and the scoob" seemed like a horribly empty movie to me. It lacked exploration of the place they visited to find clues ect, it just relied on a fight in the yard all the time that went on for so long. and it is frustrating to see that the movie is just a fight in the courtyard all the time without doing anything else or exploring the castle or the fantastic world that surrounded them. oh well the rescued of Shaggy , they did something, but it was so silly and simple that it lacked a emotion, neither did they explore the witch's fortress just a long corridor that they went in and out of. the definition of the movie for me is that it is an "empty" movie that lacks many of the essential scooby doo elements. all the scooby doo movies that are good explore and show many scenarios and perspectives of the place where they are, scooby was like this forever and lacking that, there was also no collection of clues that goes hand in hand with exploring the place and losing The whole movie in one scene ruins everything. It was a great idea, they built a great and fantastic story that later they couldn't cook well, they should make simpler plots that they can develop better, lately they tend to do everything in a big way and then not develop it well.I still enjoyed some aspects like daphne and fred that were the best of the movie for me and to get a movie less based on Shaggy and Scooby and more focused on other gang members is something unusual but it was not well done and in the end all that it doesn't matter for the movie to be better.velma was also quite annoying and it was a step back from Happy Halloween that was much better. this movie was rated as good ....with that great story it could have had a much better development.
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Mar 23, 2021 6:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by ruben MG on Mar 23, 2021 6:58:03 GMT -5
Anyone know when we might expect to get some news on the next release? I'd assume maybe summer or late fall, but I'm not really sure. It's rumored that the Courage crossover film is going to be the next one. or maybe we get one movie with krypto the superdog 🤔
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Post by mattpricetime on Mar 24, 2021 21:53:30 GMT -5
After a second watch of this one, I'm going to go out on a limb and say this movie probably had some serious change in ideas in it's production. I think somebody who worked on it is eventually going to spill more on who altered what.
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Post by ruben MG on Mar 26, 2021 23:53:27 GMT -5
After a second watch of this one, I'm going to go out on a limb and say this movie probably had some serious change in ideas in it's production. I think somebody who worked on it is eventually going to spill more on who altered what. Exactly, this movie I suppose had a lot of changes and production problems. has 3 directors and countless producers no scooby doo dtv movie ever had such a number of directors. that means that each one redoes what the previous one did, many problems .....
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May 6, 2021 15:51:30 GMT -5
Post by scoobyfan69 on May 6, 2021 15:51:30 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this movie I thought it was really fun and entertaining and the time travel sequence showing clips from previous scooby doo shows and movies was a nice touch , velma was still skeptic but to me she felt more toned down and less annoying which is a good thing and every member of the gang got a chance to shine. The only issue I have is that I wished it was longer because it felt a bit rushed I was suprised about how quicky they defeated morgan la fey but other than that this was a very enjoyable movie.
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Post by scoobylover on May 9, 2021 4:23:07 GMT -5
Watched it twice and couldn’t really enjoy it. The pace felt weird and all over the place. They spent so much time on the fighting montage when they could have focused more on the trip from Camelot to Morgan’s lair which lasted like 3 seconds when it could have been an epic quest. I did enjoy Daphne being the fighter though it did feel like it came out of nowhere. Merlin, Arthur and all the side characters were highly unlikable and I have no idea who Thundarr is, Im so done with these Hanna Barbera throwbacks that no one has ever heard of in their life. Velma was annoying as per usual, Fred keeps getting dumber but I did love the way him and Scooby were chilling while watching Daphne fight. I LOVED the design of the knight fighter, now THAT would have been a cool mystery plot but they gave us the worst looking dragon ever. Also Morgan was a lifeless villain idk. I liked that some background characters were taken from the What’s new Scooby Doo renn fair episode. Overall, a stinker
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Oct 24, 2021 14:53:21 GMT -5
Post by Whyboy on Oct 24, 2021 14:53:21 GMT -5
Me and my friend just couldn't enjoy this one. It seemed like a combo of every other bad Scooby movie from the last few years, with the added bonus of a slightly grayer saturation to the colour scheme. And the "is it real?" ending where they explain the time travel so hand wavey and made the inclusion of Merlin so arbitrary in its explanation it makes for a film that was really dull and not fun to sit through. We basically made a video where we ended off asking the question "how could Time Travel Work in Scooby-Doo?" And I fully believe if the writers went full tilt into having an ACTUAL time travel adventure, where they could have a mystery in Arthurian time to frame the pacing of the movie, have their action scenes with more stakes, and just have fun with the weird setup it would the movie come more alive.
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