novi
Black Knight
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Post by novi on Aug 19, 2018 14:51:55 GMT -5
MI seemed to be fond of toeing the line into romantic territory with certain people, but never outright going there. On one hand, when something is meant to be romantic, they're grossly obvious about it (Fred/Daphne, Stone/Nettles, etc). But in S1, there seemed to be at the very least heavy implication that Stone and Mayor Jones were dating, was there not? They spent their evenings together at the Tiki Hut, they paired off together when Aphrodite came, and Stone's reaction to the S1 finale (crying, kneeling down next to Jones and softly asking Jones to tell him it isn't true) is more like that of a betrayed lover than just a friend. Then again, it's never outright spoken. Did anyone else see this as a relationship, or were they just meant to be platonic?
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Post by scoobylover on Aug 19, 2018 15:26:29 GMT -5
I see their relationship as a bromance. What I really enjoyed about Season 2 was Marcie and Velma's relationship which wasn't obvious because of how risquè it would have been for the network but was cute af
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Post by manbearpig on Aug 19, 2018 17:26:54 GMT -5
I think that Sheriff Stone is just attracted to anyone in power
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Post by scoobnick on Aug 19, 2018 22:51:13 GMT -5
nah, i think of stone just being good pals with the mayor. i see marcie and velmas relationship as being romantic but not over the top, like daphne and fred.
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Post by russm on Aug 20, 2018 9:25:07 GMT -5
nah, i think of stone just being good pals with the mayor. i see marcie and velmas relationship as being romantic but not over the top, like daphne and fred. The Marcie/Velma relationship was the only one on that show that wasn't turned into a soap opera or there for the 'drama', the only one treated by the writers with any respect.
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Post by Doo on Aug 20, 2018 9:57:43 GMT -5
I guess I saw it as a romantic relationship, though it was only sort of hinted as a joke like the Marcie/Velma relationship.
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Post by Jinkies on May 4, 2020 13:33:28 GMT -5
I guess I saw it as a romantic relationship, though it was only sort of hinted as a joke like the Marcie/Velma relationship. I agree, although I think it was more of a one/sided infatuation on Sheriff Stone’s part.
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Post by dooscoobert0220 on Apr 28, 2021 3:39:12 GMT -5
Hmmmm....I think they definitely had a relationship, but weren't allowed to make it clear due to the network. It's always been a struggle to get LGBT+ representation in the media, but especially in kids media, which has only really happened in the past few years. But there's definitely something going on there. The Sheriff is probably bi, and was probably with the Mayor until he was arrested at the end of season 1. I'm assuming he felt really betrayed by the Mayor's history, and had ended whatever they had after that. The fact that Jones never married in his life - since he faked Fred's mom, and never "remarried" - is certianly interesting. I wouldn't have been surprised if the writers had intended that, and maybe even wanted to make it clear but WB/Cartoon Network said a big fat "no".
The relationships in general are pretty interesting throughout the show. I'm one of the few who actually enjoys it all - it's basically a young adult, but leaning more towards young, version of Scooby-Doo, and it works for me. Also, If the entire Fred and Daphne thing hadn't happened, we wouldn't have gotten "Trap Of Love" which is simply an amazing song. But I do have issues with how the whole Shaggy/Velma thing worked out. I feel like they created the "Shaggy needs to pick between Scooby and Velma" just to have a conflict for the two of them to break up, when it doesn't really make sense. In theory, Scooby doesn;t have a real reason to be jealous of Velma, and vice versa. Like sure, Scooby was upset Shaggy was spening less time with him, and I get that actually happens with friends when one of them starts dating someone, but I don't really get why they couldn't just work that out. Although, it does seem like Scooby gets over by the next episode after he finds out, but Velma still enforces the whole "make a choice" thing. Which could just be another of her "turn Shaggy into what you expect him to be rather then like him for who he is" things that she does because she's not actually interested in guys. So I guess it's not that bad of a plot point. Just a little weird. But I think a more interesting way to do it - and something that would maybe have worked better for more people - is to have Shaggy be actually invested in the relationship. Hell, even have Velma be invested in a more positive way, if still controlling, at least at first. Have them be together the entire first season. But then when Shaggy gets sent to military school, have the two of them leave the relationship hanging, and when Shaggy gwets back he wants to pick up where they left off. But Velma has since gotten closer to Marcie and realized she isn't really interested in guys anymore, and has to explain that to him, and of course, he would understand and they would move past it. Of course, then they would have had to make Velma and Marcie's relationship clear, and again, the network/WB/whoever wouldn't have wanted that. Still, I think that would've been great to see, and better then where they went the first season with Shaggy and Velma.
Also, I realized this was a thread mostly focused on Mayor Jones and Sheriff Stone, but I'm watching the show again, and had all these thoughts and needed to share them somewhere so I hope you enjoyed it lol.
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Post by Ark on Apr 29, 2021 16:32:13 GMT -5
I see their relationship as a bromance. What I really enjoyed about Season 2 was Marcie and Velma's relationship which wasn't obvious because of how risquè it would have been for the network but was cute af The writers were very clever about this, not unlike a good song writer using lyrics that can be interpreted different ways to appeal to a wider audience. I don't think there was anything romantic between the sheriff and the mayor, and it probably would have been discussed alongside the Velma/Marcie relationship when the director discussed that, but who knows?
This could be. The mayor was indeed single. The sheriff never treated him like the lady who replaces him, but again, the possibility is there.
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Post by matt on Apr 29, 2021 17:27:48 GMT -5
I think it was a bromance that was meant for jokes rather than actual implications of a relationship. I think what really convinces me of this is like what arkmabat said, it probably would've been mentioned alongside Velma and Marcie. They have a fun dynamic either way, but I think and hope it is platonic in that instance
With Marcie and Velma, I'm glad that it was confirmed to be a relationship though. It would've been neat to see it explicitly confirmed in the show, but better late than never
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Post by dooscoobert0220 on Apr 29, 2021 23:36:45 GMT -5
I see their relationship as a bromance. What I really enjoyed about Season 2 was Marcie and Velma's relationship which wasn't obvious because of how risquè it would have been for the network but was cute af The writers were very clever about this, not unlike a good song writer using lyrics that can be interpreted different ways to appeal to a wider audience. I don't think there was anything romantic between the sheriff and the mayor, and it probably would have been discussed alongside the Velma/Marcie relationship when the director discussed that, but who knows?
This could be. The mayor was indeed single. The sheriff never treated him like the lady who replaces him, but again, the possibility is there.
True, but some people treat each partner they have differently, especially if the partner is a different gender then their previous one. I also think it depends on everyone's personal experiences. I haven't many "bromance" type friendships with guy friends I have, but I have dated guys, and that's what I think the two of them are doing. It's open to interpretation and I think that's a good thing. Also, I assume it wasn't mentioned when Marcie and Velma were confirmed as a couple was because the director was specifically asked about them specifically, so didn't mention Fred and the Sheriff? I could be wrong though, I don't remember the exact situation.
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Post by matt on Apr 30, 2021 17:36:36 GMT -5
The writers were very clever about this, not unlike a good song writer using lyrics that can be interpreted different ways to appeal to a wider audience. I don't think there was anything romantic between the sheriff and the mayor, and it probably would have been discussed alongside the Velma/Marcie relationship when the director discussed that, but who knows?
This could be. The mayor was indeed single. The sheriff never treated him like the lady who replaces him, but again, the possibility is there.
True, but some people treat each partner they have differently, especially if the partner is a different gender then their previous one. I also think it depends on everyone's personal experiences. I haven't many "bromance" type friendships with guy friends I have, but I have dated guys, and that's what I think the two of them are doing. It's open to interpretation and I think that's a good thing. Also, I assume it wasn't mentioned when Marcie and Velma were confirmed as a couple was because the director was specifically asked about them specifically, so didn't mention Fred and the Sheriff? I could be wrong though, I don't remember the exact situation. There’s certainly nothing wrong with having your own interpretation of characters in that regard. That’s kinda what my current profile picture is from my other favorite show lol
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