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Post by russm on Oct 10, 2015 14:32:17 GMT -5
I'm glad that you're giving the show a chance and seem to be getting what I was talking about concerning how and why the new look helps us expand the kind of humor and character storytelling we're trying to do. I wish more people would give the show a chance. Some of the reviews I've read on other sites have been completely bashing the show even though they haven't even watched it. Like, for example the comment you replied to on ScoobyFan.Net, the person insists "I have given the show a chance!!!!" yet they replied to it an hour and a half before the show had even aired. I think the issue is a lot of people just can't get past the new designs and feel that the show has been "ruined" because of them. Yet if they would just give the show a chance, most of the people claiming that you've "ruined" Scooby-Doo for them would probably end up liking the new series. I think SD:MI casts a long shadow over this. SD:MI was highly divisive amongst the fan-base, the toxic sludge that was the relationship sub-plots spoilt the series for many. After that you start to become risk-adverse. |
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Post by Sophia Peletier on Oct 10, 2015 17:25:53 GMT -5
I wish more people would give the show a chance. Some of the reviews I've read on other sites have been completely bashing the show even though they haven't even watched it. Like, for example the comment you replied to on ScoobyFan.Net, the person insists "I have given the show a chance!!!!" yet they replied to it an hour and a half before the show had even aired. I think the issue is a lot of people just can't get past the new designs and feel that the show has been "ruined" because of them. Yet if they would just give the show a chance, most of the people claiming that you've "ruined" Scooby-Doo for them would probably end up liking the new series. I think SD:MI casts a long shadow over this. SD:MI was highly divisive amongst the fan-base, the toxic sludge that was the relationship sub-plots spoilt the series for many. After that you start to become risk-adverse. Yeah, one of the major problems with SDMI was the horribly written relationship plots. Not only did it alienate certain portions of the fan-base (like myself, a Shaggy/Daphne fan), but they just dragged down the characters in poor directions. I'm glad this show has moved away from that. The characters have really benefited from it. So far, Be Cool has been very well-done and has certainly pulled me back in as a fan. I'm also really glad that there's finally no More Fred/Daphne relationship dragging things down. It's a nice break after years of having it forced on us. |
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Post by russm on Oct 10, 2015 17:44:49 GMT -5
I think SD:MI casts a long shadow over this. SD:MI was highly divisive amongst the fan-base, the toxic sludge that was the relationship sub-plots spoilt the series for many. After that you start to become risk-adverse. Yeah, one of the major problems with SDMI was the horribly written relationship plots. Not only did it alienate certain portions of the fan-base (like myself, a Shaggy/Daphne fan), but they just dragged down the characters in poor directions. I'm glad this show has moved away from that. The characters have really benefited from it. So far, Be Cool has been very well-done and has certainly pulled me back in as a fan. I'm also really glad that there's finally no More Fred/Daphne relationship dragging things down. It's a nice break after years of having it forced on us. Talking of an alienated fan-base, how about this edorazzi.tumblr.com/post/86111989975/say-what-you-like-about-mystery-incorporated-but-i |
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Post by alfonso on Oct 10, 2015 19:20:27 GMT -5
Hey guys - I'm really, sincerely appreciating all the thoughtful comments and reviews, thoughts, criticisms, questions - everything! I'm glad that you're giving the show a chance and seem to be getting what I was talking about concerning how and why the new look helps us expand the kind of humor and character storytelling we're trying to do. What you've seen so far is the basic style and tone of the show. Like any series, some people will like certain episodes better than others, but I promise this show will just get better and better for you, these characters will grow and grow inside your hearts until their like best friends and stuff coming up will blow your minds. Thanks, JCB  The only thing I need (speaking of season 2) are Daphne's puppets back, but, like an accessory/thing that she uses frequently, please, I think they're brilliant Other than that, like I said before thanks for working so hard and believing on it, I must say it could be my favorite so far (If not #2) :v haha |
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Post by rudy2691 on Oct 10, 2015 19:26:48 GMT -5
I think it would be funny if the Daphne puppet showed up with her arm in a sling from the fall.
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Post by jcb on Oct 10, 2015 21:38:59 GMT -5
I'm glad that you're giving the show a chance and seem to be getting what I was talking about concerning how and why the new look helps us expand the kind of humor and character storytelling we're trying to do. I wish more people would give the show a chance. Some of the reviews I've read on other sites have been completely bashing the show even though they haven't even watched it. Like, for example the comment you replied to on ScoobyFan.Net, the person insists "I have given the show a chance!!!!" yet they replied to it an hour and a half before the show had even aired. I think the issue is a lot of people just can't get past the new designs and feel that the show has been "ruined" because of them. Yet if they would just give the show a chance, most of the people claiming that you've "ruined" Scooby-Doo for them would probably end up liking the new series. Yeah, I don't know why I responded to that comment. I'm usually not interested in being baited into responding to anything. I guess I can understand people not finding the new designs pleasing or jarring, or whatever, so all those millions of HILARIOUSLY CLEVER AND UNIQUE "Did Seth MacFarlane design this show?" comments just kinda bore me and make me roll my eyes. But the people who suggest we've dumbed it down or that we're insulting people's intelligence bother me. If they've honestly watched the shows and think the characters or humor is "stupid" or "dumbed down," then I suppose they'd also say Monty Python, early Woody Allen and Mel Brooks, the Marx Brothers and all the other comedic influences I was brought up on as a small child are also "stupid." Maybe they do. I'm curious what they think "intelligent" comedy is. I believe highly in the intelligence of children, their curiosity, their desire to learn and stretch up to a joke, to glean meaning through context, expand their minds, to be able to sit down with their parents and grandparents and all enjoy and laugh at the same program for the same reasons. Either way, I'm okay with people bashing it. I mean, we've gotten death threats (!!). I'd rather have strong negative reaction than a shrug. It would just be nice if the strong negative reactions were based on the informed opinions of having actually watched a few episodes. Time will tell. |
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Post by Doo on Oct 10, 2015 22:26:46 GMT -5
I wish more people would give the show a chance. Some of the reviews I've read on other sites have been completely bashing the show even though they haven't even watched it. Like, for example the comment you replied to on ScoobyFan.Net, the person insists "I have given the show a chance!!!!" yet they replied to it an hour and a half before the show had even aired. I think the issue is a lot of people just can't get past the new designs and feel that the show has been "ruined" because of them. Yet if they would just give the show a chance, most of the people claiming that you've "ruined" Scooby-Doo for them would probably end up liking the new series. Yeah, I don't know why I responded to that comment. I'm usually not interested in being baited into responding to anything. I guess I can understand people not finding the new designs pleasing or jarring, or whatever, so all those millions of HILARIOUSLY CLEVER AND UNIQUE "Did Seth MacFarlane design this show?" comments just kinda bore me and make me roll my eyes. But the people who suggest we've dumbed it down or that we're insulting people's intelligence bother me. If they've honestly watched the shows and think the characters or humor is "stupid" or "dumbed down," then I suppose they'd also say Monty Python, early Woody Allen and Mel Brooks, the Marx Brothers and all the other comedic influences I was brought up on as a small child are also "stupid." Maybe they do. I'm curious what they think "intelligent" comedy is. I believe highly in the intelligence of children, their curiosity, their desire to learn and stretch up to a joke, to glean meaning through context, expand their minds, to be able to sit down with their parents and grandparents and all enjoy and laugh at the same program for the same reasons. Either way, I'm okay with people bashing it. I mean, we've gotten death threats (!!). I'd rather have strong negative reaction than a shrug. It would just be nice if the strong negative reactions were based on the informed opinions of having actually watched a few episodes. Time will tell. I think it's great that you respond to those type of comments. I'm sure when that person responded to your comment they probably thought you were just making up that you were the show's head writer. No offense, but when you made your first post on here I was even a bit hesitant to believe you were really who you said you were since you don't see the head writers for shows hanging out on fan forums very much. Like I said, I think people just think the show is "dumbed down" because they think the designs look like Family Guy. Another complaint I've seen a bunch is that you guys have made Daphne an "idiot" with her new personality. People can't seem to think past this. I just see her with more of a three dimensional, quirky-girl personality, not as idiotic at all. |
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Post by jcb on Oct 10, 2015 22:55:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know why I responded to that comment. I'm usually not interested in being baited into responding to anything. I guess I can understand people not finding the new designs pleasing or jarring, or whatever, so all those millions of HILARIOUSLY CLEVER AND UNIQUE "Did Seth MacFarlane design this show?" comments just kinda bore me and make me roll my eyes. But the people who suggest we've dumbed it down or that we're insulting people's intelligence bother me. If they've honestly watched the shows and think the characters or humor is "stupid" or "dumbed down," then I suppose they'd also say Monty Python, early Woody Allen and Mel Brooks, the Marx Brothers and all the other comedic influences I was brought up on as a small child are also "stupid." Maybe they do. I'm curious what they think "intelligent" comedy is. I believe highly in the intelligence of children, their curiosity, their desire to learn and stretch up to a joke, to glean meaning through context, expand their minds, to be able to sit down with their parents and grandparents and all enjoy and laugh at the same program for the same reasons. Either way, I'm okay with people bashing it. I mean, we've gotten death threats (!!). I'd rather have strong negative reaction than a shrug. It would just be nice if the strong negative reactions were based on the informed opinions of having actually watched a few episodes. Time will tell. I think it's great that you respond to those type of comments. I'm sure when that person responded to your comment they probably thought you were just making up that you were the show's head writer. No offense, but when you made your first post on here I was even a bit hesitant to believe you were really who you said you were since you don't see the head writers for shows hanging out on fan forums very much. Like I said, I think people just think the show is "dumbed down" because they think the designs look like Family Guy. Another complaint I've seen a bunch is that you guys have made Daphne an "idiot" with her new personality. People can't seem to think past this. I just see her with more of a three dimensional, quirky-girl personality, not as idiotic at all. Yes, totally, the "Daphne is now dumb" thing. Sigh. She's an eccentric non-conformist. Hopefully that "dumb" concept will fade as people continue to watch what we do with her. And, yeah, I get a little flack for interacting with fans on social media. It's not considered "cool" to do that - like we're so "above" the audience or something. It's absurd. I'm a huge fan of certain things, myself (including this show) and I'd really like it if I had the opportunity to casually interact with some of the people who created the things I enjoy. Plus, everyone here has been really kind, respectful and generous - even when they're critical. |
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Post by Doo on Oct 11, 2015 12:17:01 GMT -5
And, yeah, I get a little flack for interacting with fans on social media. It's not considered "cool" to do that - like we're so "above" the audience or something. It's absurd. I'm a huge fan of certain things, myself (including this show) and I'd really like it if I had the opportunity to casually interact with some of the people who created the things I enjoy. Plus, everyone here has been really kind, respectful and generous - even when they're critical. That's one of the things that drew me to join this forum back in 2008 - everyone was so welcoming and respectful of one another's opinions. The other thing that drew me into the community here is that pretty much everyone is older and people you can have rational Scooby conversations with. It's hard to have a sophisticated Scooby conversation with a 10-year old child. You can tell a few of the members here are younger, but the majority of the members here are teenagers or adults and people you can have mature Scooby discussions with. |
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Post by scooby1 on Oct 13, 2015 16:11:09 GMT -5
jcb thank you for coming on this forum and explaining things to us. I do really like be cool scooby doo and the new designs grew on me. The only thing I would like to see changed is that there are so few people in the episodes that it is easy to pick out the villain right away, if you could add just a few more possible suspects that would make the show a lot more exciting for me. I know you probably already have all of the shows finished for this season but maybe for next season you could just think about adding more characters. Thanks again for being on this forum.
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Post by jcb on Oct 13, 2015 17:59:04 GMT -5
jcb thank you for coming on this forum and explaining things to us. I do really like be cool scooby doo and the new designs grew on me. The only thing I would like to see changed is that there are so few people in the episodes that it is easy to pick out the villain right away, if you could add just a few more possible suspects that would make the show a lot more exciting for me. I know you probably already have all of the shows finished for this season but maybe for next season you could just think about adding more characters. Thanks again for being on this forum. Hey scooby1 - thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate you watching the show and thinking about it enough to even HAVE constructive criticism! I hear you about the lack of possible suspects. It's an honest problem we have with this version of the show. Here's WHY it currently is that way: by elevating the rest of the gang up to comedic characters and taking a more character-driven, sit-com approach, we've given ourselves SO many storylines to service that cramming anything else in there gets very difficult. Normally we have little arcs and runners for all five Scooby gang members (many times Shaggy and Scooby's runners are combined - which makes sense, but it's also nice to experience them as separate characters) and all of those main character runners need beginnings, middles and ends, plus we have a mystery story with clues and suspects that all need to be comedically fleshed out and given real or fake motives to be considered "suspects" at all. The balance is tricky and, maybe incorrectly for some people's taste, I tend to err on the side of the characters and comedy. In the best possible world they're all really interrelated so the character stories ARE the mystery story. Either way, thank you for bringing it back to my attention as it IS something I always have to keep in mind: make the mysteries interesting and make it fun to guess who the bad guy is. As always, some episodes will be better than others at accomplishing this. I sincerely hope there's other things that are enjoyable in the ones where we're a little light in the suspect department. Thanks, JCB |
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Post by doobert on Oct 13, 2015 21:19:53 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying jcb, but even later day HB Scooby shows, added more potential suspects. The lack of suspects isn't really a major complaint I have about Be Cool Scooby Doo, mind you, but it is noteable. I understand what you're saying though, this show is more about the humor, then it is about the mystery. It can pretty funny at times too.
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Post by scooby1 on Oct 13, 2015 22:07:58 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying jcb, but even later day HB Scooby shows, added more potential suspects. The lack of suspects isn't really a major complaint I have about Be Cool Scooby Doo, mind you, but it is noteable. I understand what you're saying though, this show is more about the humor, then it is about the mystery. It can pretty funny at times too. What are some of your criticisms then doobert? job is looking for constructive criticism |
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Post by jcb on Oct 14, 2015 12:43:17 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying jcb, but even later day HB Scooby shows, added more potential suspects. The lack of suspects isn't really a major complaint I have about Be Cool Scooby Doo, mind you, but it is noteable. I understand what you're saying though, this show is more about the humor, then it is about the mystery. It can pretty funny at times too. What are some of your criticisms then doobert? job is looking for constructive criticism Haha. Well, I wouldn't say I'm actively "looking" for constructive criticism, because I don't want to cause an avalanche here, plus I'm REALLY far into writing the series, so it is what it is pretty much at this point - BUT, that said, everyone's thoughts and comments have been respectful and interesting on this forum and I have no problem occasionally discussing certain elements of the show if it seems productive to do so. |
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Post by doobert on Oct 14, 2015 18:00:32 GMT -5
I think the series is fine, honestly. My only complaints are sometimes the character designs can be a little awkward and that the suspects could be more varied, otherwise the show's fine.
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