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Post by UltimateScoobyFan on Aug 6, 2014 23:00:39 GMT -5
Um... Looks like we have the original plot and character design, as well as that it will premiere on 2015.   May I say now that they look... utterly disgusting... They look like they jumped out of some sort of Family Guy show... I mean, look at Shaggy... I had got used to Scooby's new look from the initial picture with the logo, and I said "OK, how much worse can the rest of the gang be?"... I was wrong... I am not happy with the design at all..But, I am willing to give the show a shot. It may be really funny who knows. Only time will tell. ugh |
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Post by Maybeth on Aug 7, 2014 2:39:32 GMT -5
  nothing serious but thought it was funny lol Wow...great...unexpected...recemblance!! :0 Hope it is as hilarious as we'd wann'it to be!  |
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Post by ScoobyAddict on Aug 7, 2014 12:33:15 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum jcb. We appreciate you being here and answering questions and sharing your thoughts and work with us.
When I first saw the animation for Be Cool Scooby-Doo!, I was disappointed. It's not what we are used to, of course. My first impression of the images I have seen were not good. I read through all of your posts in this thread, and it makes me feel a lot better about the new series. I loved Phineas and Ferb! It was one of the few cartoons my kids watched that I was actually able to watch with them. We always had the best time watching that show! When we went to Disney, we used our picture with P&F for our Christmas card. The writing on that show was phenomenal! It definitely makes me more excited for the new series.
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Post by Sophia Peletier on Aug 7, 2014 13:56:29 GMT -5
Hilarious!  Velma's design is my favorite! I hope they make her likeable again, unlike her Mystery Incorporated counterpart. Despite what people seem to believe the character designs suggest, I think you'll find this will be the most lovable, real, fully dimensional Scooby gang of all time. That's good to know! Mystery Incorporated really left me disliking several of the characters, and by extension, the modern voice actors. I now have more faith in this show since, as others have pointed out, Phineas and Ferb is an excellent show and one of the few modern-day cartoons I can actually sit through and watch with my friends and family. |
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Post by jcb on Aug 7, 2014 15:14:10 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum jcb. We appreciate you being here and answering questions and sharing your thoughts and work with us. When I first saw the animation for Be Cool Scooby-Doo!, I was disappointed. It's not what we are used to, of course. My first impression of the images I have seen were not good. I read through all of your posts in this thread, and it makes me feel a lot better about the new series. I loved Phineas and Ferb! It was one of the few cartoons my kids watched that I was actually able to watch with them. We always had the best time watching that show! When we went to Disney, we used our picture with P&F for our Christmas card. The writing on that show was phenomenal! It definitely makes me more excited for the new series. Hi! Thanks for the welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed "Phineas and Ferb." we worked really hard to make that show something everyone of all ages could enjoy and that we, personally, would find funny and engaging. We're certainly bringing that approach to BCSD. Scooby is, of course, NOT Phineas and Ferb, though, and we have no desire to make it that. What we're attempting, though, is to bring the intelligence, humor, heart and character that Phineas had and make the Scooby Doo show (which we all grew up with) that WE would want to see. A show that a younger audience that has never seen Scooby can fall in love with, that is also the best Scooby Doo show an older audience that knows it well, has ever seen. Ambitious? Yup. Always. |
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Post by UltimateScoobyFan on Aug 9, 2014 10:25:13 GMT -5
I love this forum. It's great to see how much passion there is for Scooby Doo. xoxo Jon Colton Barry Wow this is wonderful that you have joined us on here! Thank you! I just read through all your posts and I am looking forward to what you guys have in store. I loved Mystery Incorporated and I am the type of fan that will give something a chance before I make an opinion of it. I think maybe once we see the new style actually be animated we will get a better feel for it. |
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Post by ahkyahnan on Aug 9, 2014 12:36:08 GMT -5
Thanks Mark, that means a lot. I'm glad you enjoyed "Phineas." Our approach was that we were not making a show for children, we were just not EXCLUDING children - by having elements like inappropriate violence or sexuality. The show is for everybody - old and young - to enjoy. In terms of intelligence, sophistication or humor, we had a rule that if it made us laugh, it went in. <snip> The biggest sin to me and Zac is talking down to kids. They're smarter than you'd ever believe and, just like I didn't get EVERY joke in some of those movies/TV shows, I usually got what was funny through the context or got it later on. Kids love to stretch UP to the humor. I really appreciate the approach you describe above. Especially for a show like Scooby where the age range of your audience is going to stretch from fairly young to fairly old. You're absolutely correct about kids. For some reason or another I've always been the one in the family that plays with all the kids growing up. Going places, watching shows, playing games, sports and all sorts of stuff. In fact, my niece who's now married with her own girl lived with us during high school, and Phineas was one of our favorite shows. Her and her older brother live in another state now, but her mom has 2 more kids 7 and 5 so who knows when I'll ever get to sit at the grown up table. Anyway, the point is that outside of work, I probably spend more time with kids and teenagers than adults, and I can attest to the fact that they are very smart about stuff like this. I think my 7 year old nephew is a bit like you in that he's been exposed to more grown up programming, and is maybe a little ahead that way, but it's amazing the conversations you can have with him driving in the car and watching TV and so forth. Most of the time I think we forget the age differences, so I think I can concur your approach is spot on. Like I mentioned before, I find all of this very encouraging. I think one important comparison here is that both shows featured good stories with an interesting combination of well developed characters, and the humor flowed naturally with the story without feeling forced, and in turn the humorous happenings helped propel the story. They worked together. I'll talk a bit more about that below, but in my personal opinion, Scooby has to have a good story even in a series with more comedic leanings. It won't work if it depends too much on sight gags and one-liners with only a superficial storyline that only serves as a setting for the jokes. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with some of the CN shows that do that, and I think some of them are very well done even if not my cup of tea exactly, but I don't think it would work for Scooby. That was one of my concerns early on when we first heard of this project, but I'm now glad to see it's in good hands. I'm looking very forward to seeing it. Well, as long as you care about what you're doing and respect the audience and the show, I think it will work fine. Expanding on what I mentioned above, I think one of the factors that's made Scooby so successful over the years, is that its unique combination of story and humor have consistently appealed to a diverse range of people who might not normally watch the same things. Some think of it as a fun spooky mystery a little more on the serious side of animation but with some good humor also, while others watch it as a comedy show with a good story to boot, all with characters they care about. And it amazes me sometimes the programming diversity you can get out of the franchise just my altering the mix of spooky, story and humor just a bit. Tweak the mix a bit more to the spooky story and you get SD:MI and some of the DTV movies, tweak more towards the middle and you get the original series, and tweak further to the comedy and you get "Pup" and so forth. And they all do well for the most part with the same audiences. Each new series or DTV can do something a little different from the one before and remain fresh just by tweaking that mix, and even different episodes within the same series can alter the mix a bit from week-to-week to prevent things from getting too formulaic. I honestly can't think of too many other franchises...animated or otherwise...that can do that to the same degree. But all the elements have to be there to some extent to be "Scooby". It gives quite a bit of room to work with, and again based on what I saw with Phineas I think you are the right guys to work on this variation. I have to admit to being a little more on the spooky/story side of the equation myself generally speaking, but I'm getting anxious to see where you take this and I very much appreciate you taking the time to talk about all of this. We could all tell it was going to be a departure from the SD:MI approach from the last time around, and your elaboration with the fanbase on what you plan to do helps set it off to a good start I think. Thanks. Well, I've gone on enough for now, but it is fun talking with you. Mark |
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Post by russm on Aug 9, 2014 16:58:40 GMT -5
I have one question jcb if you'd be so kind. When writing an episode how do you know when you have written enough for the allotted time for the episode? I guess it would be a pain if the director said 'great story, but I need another 1 minute and 21 seconds of material.
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Post by jcb on Aug 10, 2014 16:14:35 GMT -5
I have one question jcb if you'd be so kind. When writing an episode how do you know when you have written enough for the allotted time for the episode? I guess it would be a pain if the director said 'great story, but I need another 1 minute and 21 seconds of material. Hi russm! A typical half hour show is actually about 22 minutes of show content with the rest for commercial time. It depends on the style of show, but, typically, most scripts are considered about a minute a page. That's a loose estimate and varies between writers and also style. A bunch of action a writer describes can take up an entire page just explaining it, but, on screen, it could only end up being 30 seconds. Basically, we aim for 30 pages. Normally, the issue is needing to edit, rather than needing to add more. For me, I'd prefer to have the problem of too much god stuff and have to cut something, rather than too little. |
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Post by russm on Aug 10, 2014 17:42:37 GMT -5
I have one question jcb if you'd be so kind. When writing an episode how do you know when you have written enough for the allotted time for the episode? I guess it would be a pain if the director said 'great story, but I need another 1 minute and 21 seconds of material. Hi russm! A typical half hour show is actually about 22 minutes of show content with the rest for commercial time. It depends on the style of show, but, typically, most scripts are considered about a minute a page. That's a loose estimate and varies between writers and also style. A bunch of action a writer describes can take up an entire page just explaining it, but, on screen, it could only end up being 30 seconds. Basically, we aim for 30 pages. Normally, the issue is needing to edit, rather than needing to add more. For me, I'd prefer to have the problem of too much god stuff and have to cut something, rather than too little. Cue much arguing about font and paper size. Thanks, I guess when you've done this for a while you get a feeling for how long a piece of work is going to take. |
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Post by SpiderScooby on Aug 12, 2014 4:49:40 GMT -5
Hey jcb, would you say it's hard writing for a comedy series like Scooby? Welcome to the forum BTW |
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Post by jcb on Aug 13, 2014 2:19:43 GMT -5
Hey jcb, would you say it's hard writing for a comedy series like Scooby? Welcome to the forum BTW Hi SpiderScooby - Yes, it's extremely hard writing for a comedy series like Scooby. Then again, it's extremely hard to write ANYTHING really well, if that's your goal. |
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Post by dangerpronek on Aug 15, 2014 18:00:11 GMT -5
Hey jcb, would you say it's hard writing for a comedy series like Scooby? Welcome to the forum BTW Hi SpiderScooby - Yes, it's extremely hard writing for a comedy series like Scooby. Then again, it's extremely hard to write ANYTHING really well, if that's your goal. Hi Jcb!! I'm so excited about the new series!! I don't know if you're allowed to say or not, but will there be musical scenes similar to the many in your hit Disney series |
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Post by jcb on Aug 16, 2014 8:33:57 GMT -5
Hi SpiderScooby - Yes, it's extremely hard writing for a comedy series like Scooby. Then again, it's extremely hard to write ANYTHING really well, if that's your goal. Hi Jcb!! I'm so excited about the new series!! I don't know if you're allowed to say or not, but will there be musical scenes similar to the many in your hit Disney series Hey dangerpronek - I'm not allowed to say, but coming from a musical family and being a songwriter and musician, myself, I always try to put as much music as i can in all my projects. Comedy writing and songwriting are very close in terms of creative muscles one uses - it's all lyrics, melody and rhythm. zi wouldn't be surprised if the new Scooby has a bunch of great new songs in it, as well. No promises, though! |
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Post by scoob16 on Aug 16, 2014 14:08:05 GMT -5
Hi Jcb!! I'm so excited about the new series!! I don't know if you're allowed to say or not, but will there be musical scenes similar to the many in your hit Disney series Hey dangerpronek - I'm not allowed to say, but coming from a musical family and being a songwriter and musician, myself, I always try to put as much music as i can in all my projects. Comedy writing and songwriting are very close in terms of creative muscles one uses - it's all lyrics, melody and rhythm. zi wouldn't be surprised if the new Scooby has a bunch of great new songs in it, as well. No promises, though! I would really love to see new chase scenes songs like in Where Are You, Pup Named and What's New! |
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