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Post by russm on Jul 30, 2014 15:52:52 GMT -5
Yeah, the relationship stuff in SDMI was pretty bad and dragged down the great aspects of the show. It's good to know this one will be relationship-free. Also, welcome to the forum, jcb! It's pretty awesome knowing someone who works on the show visits places like this! I hope to see you around for some actual questions on the writing process/decisions when the actual show has started airing on TV! Thanks, Soph. The romantic relationship angle in MI was certainly a brave choice and interesting experiment, but not for everybody. Zac and I feel there are other ways to explore and make the characters more dimensional, so we're focusing on, like Zac mentioned, making the show a comedic ensemble, where each character has a unique point of view and storytelling can be based on knowing those characters so well we can say, "Oh, wouldn't it be great if Daphne was in this situation..." or "Oh, how funny would it be if this happened to Fred..." Like you would if you were writing "Friends" or any multiple-character comedy where the audience knows and loves the individual personalities of each main character. Relationships (not romantic, specifically, but just the way the main characters interact with each other) and characters develop and form organically over time that way. When I was writing "Phineas and Ferb" I loved interacting with the audience, they are a bunch of intelligent, passionate people who truly care about the show. Zac and I did some of my favorite episode of "Phineas" together and are taking our approach into this show. We'll see how much time and energy I have to keep up around here, but thanks for the welcome! So the way of the platypus will be replaced by the way of the snack? Sounds good, I love Phineas and Ferb.
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Post by scoobnick on Jul 31, 2014 19:14:29 GMT -5
its cool to get feedback from someone working on the show. any chance we might see characters like scooby dee or dixie doo in the new series? its been several years since any of scoobys relatives paid him a visit.
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Post by shaggy767896 on Jul 31, 2014 20:47:41 GMT -5
Hey JCB I always wanted a Scooby doo show to make but I have one really good one it's called Scooby-Doo Monster Hunters and making a new character in the gang named "Tobias" Toby Carter he is the one that will help the gang defeating the monsters please talk to Warner Brothers I really want to make a animation for Scooby-Doo please
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Post by Maybeth on Aug 2, 2014 4:08:26 GMT -5
I finally realised, the animation is easy to get used to. [< specifically since it's just two drawings we've seen so far and nothing more revealing to help develop an opinion] I love this forum. It's great to see how much passion there is for Scooby Doo. xoxo Jon Colton Barry Glad to welcome you to the forum jcb!
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Post by ahkyahnan on Aug 2, 2014 19:24:03 GMT -5
When I was writing "Phineas and Ferb" I loved interacting with the audience, they are a bunch of intelligent, passionate people who truly care about the show. Zac and I did some of my favorite episode of "Phineas" together and are taking our approach into this show. Oh wow, that raises my interest and comfort level for this new version of Scooby quite a bit. Didn't know you worked on P&F. Not sure why, and not just saying this cause you're here, but that show has been one of the few new animated series' that I really liked. Very witty and intelligent. The plots and interconnecting storylines were so perfectly paced and placed. Of course the fact that I as an older viewer connected with it may not bode well for a series probably aimed more towards younger viewers, but oh well. Looks like this new version is starting off in good hands, and look forward to learning more as the eventual air date nears. Mark
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Post by jcb on Aug 3, 2014 14:25:23 GMT -5
When I was writing "Phineas and Ferb" I loved interacting with the audience, they are a bunch of intelligent, passionate people who truly care about the show. Zac and I did some of my favorite episode of "Phineas" together and are taking our approach into this show. Oh wow, that raises my interest and comfort level for this new version of Scooby quite a bit. Didn't know you worked on P&F. Not sure why, and not just saying this cause you're here, but that show has been one of the few new animated series' that I really liked. Very witty and intelligent. The plots and interconnecting storylines were so perfectly paced and placed. Of course the fact that I as an older viewer connected with it may not bode well for a series probably aimed more towards younger viewers, but oh well. Looks like this new version is starting off in good hands, and look forward to learning more as the eventual air date nears. Mark Thanks Mark, that means a lot. I'm glad you enjoyed "Phineas." Our approach was that we were not making a show for children, we were just not EXCLUDING children - by having elements like inappropriate violence or sexuality. The show is for everybody - old and young - to enjoy. In terms of intelligence, sophistication or humor, we had a rule that if it made us laugh, it went in. We were seriously just trying to please ourselves and do the best work possible of which we were proud. When I was 9 years-old things that were actually funny, were funny to me: Monty Python, early Woody Allen, early Mel Brooks, Airplane, the Mark Brothers. Maybe I was exposed to things most 9 year-olds weren't, but the point is - funny is funny - even to kids. The biggest sin to me and Zac is talking down to kids. They're smarter than you'd ever believe and, just like I didn't get EVERY joke in some of those movies/TV shows, I usually got what was funny through the context or got it later on. Kids love to stretch UP to the humor. I never had a kid come up to me and say he didn't "get" a "Phineas" joke. In fact, most of their favorites were the ones the execs expected would be too sophisticated for kids - or too absurd. And it all derives and flows from character. Building smart, well-rounded characters was the first, most essential step. To give you a sense of tone and style and care, for that matter, that we wanted to bring into Scooby, Zac and I did (as director and writer) episodes like "Phineas and Ferb's Christmas Vacation" (the Christmas special), the "Monster of Phineastein and Ferbgor" (our first Emmy nominated episode), "Put That Putter Away" (one of my favorites) and I wrote most of the 22-minute episodes ("Chronicles of Meap" "Lake Nose Monster" "Nerds of a Feather" "The Beak") and the TV Movie "Phineas and Ferb Across the Second Dimension." "Phineas" was written and directed by a lot of different people all with different comedic voices, styles and approaches. I had a certain personal "voice" as a writer that I developed writing comedy for the stage, where you CAN develop your own personal comedic voice in a pure environment without exec notes and grow confidence in that voice by watching audiences react to your work night after night. I wrote a long, interconnected semi-sketch show called "Play Things" that Dan Povenmire (creator of "Phineas" and old friend) saw and based on that, he asked me write for his new show that he had just sold to Disney ("Phineas," of course). He simply liked what I did and how I did it, so I was really left alone to just write like I write on that show and it's the same voice and approach that Zac asked me to bring to the new "Scooby." The comedy can get silly/smart and absurd, but it's grounded in character. It's seriously Character-driven stories and comedy from which the comedy flows organically - no matter how out there and irreverent we decide to get with it. Zac and I care so much about the same things and have a clear idea of the show we want to make. The television process is fraught with challenges and constant baton handing-offs, so much can always go wrong in the process, but if we can actually get the show we want to make to the screen. We know people will love it.
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Post by russm on Aug 3, 2014 17:22:00 GMT -5
The show is for everybody - old and young - to enjoy. Yay, Velma's world of partial differential equations is go!
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Post by CaptainBuck on Aug 3, 2014 18:57:47 GMT -5
The show is for everybody - old and young - to enjoy. Yay, Velma's world of partial differential equations is go! I can cozy up to that idea in several different ways
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Post by j3h on Aug 4, 2014 13:17:40 GMT -5
I love this forum. It's great to see how much passion there is for Scooby Doo. xoxo Jon Colton Barry Welcome! Glad you found us and have taken the time to interact! It's always great when we get visits from folks who professionally work on the characters we adore So we get to know you a little better, what is your favorite classic Scooby episode and do you have a favorite Scooby "Monster"?
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Post by groovyscooby on Aug 4, 2014 13:38:29 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, jcb! But please try to post things in relevant threads. Ah, sorry, I'm the writer of "Be Cool Scooby Doo," so it seemed like the relevant thread to post on - being how it's about "Be Cool Scooby Doo" and everything. I was considering posting on the "Laugh Olympics" thread, but it just felt even more wrong. Cool!!!!!! and welcome to the board!!!!!!
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Post by wileyk209 on Aug 5, 2014 17:33:50 GMT -5
Given the designs, they do remind me of something I'd expect from a parody of Scooby-Doo rather than an actual series (like what "MAD" would do or something.) Fred's new design kind of reminds me of Cliff Hanger from "Between the Lions" (remember Cliff Hanger?)
I hope the animation will at least be good. With SD:MI, they would just script some dialogue and ship it off to Korea, not even bothering with in-house storyboards or layouts, like some other shows like "The Looney Tunes Show" did. Chances are, if they're going the Korean route, it will probably be animated by Warner's two overseas animation studios of choice: Lotto Animation and DongWoo A&E.
I'm also hoping that being more cartoony, they will use the Hanna-Barbera sound effects a lot more. "What's New Scooby-Doo" rarely used them, and same with SD:MI (with a few exceptions, like the Mystery Solvers State Finals episode and the Dynomutt one, as they both used them a lot.) Likewise with most of the direct-to-video movies; the SFX aren't used very much in them, though "Legend of the Vampire," "Monster of Mexico" and "Mask of the Blue Falcon" had many classic H-B sound effects. Also, hearing the Warner Bros./Looney Tunes sound effects used with the Scooby gang (like Scooby running off to Warner's "spinning whistle" sound in SD:MI) is just wrong; it's like hearing the H-B sound effects used with the Looney Tunes (like in the 1967-1969 and 1990-1993 theatrical cartoons, and "The Looney Tunes Show.")
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Post by Fraphne Lover!! on Aug 6, 2014 10:39:34 GMT -5
nothing serious but thought it was funny lol
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Post by scoob16 on Aug 6, 2014 11:56:19 GMT -5
Oh God... Isn't that from SpongeBob Squarepants?!
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Post by Sophia Peletier on Aug 6, 2014 13:05:42 GMT -5
nothing serious but thought it was funny lol Hilarious! Velma's design is my favorite! I hope they make her likeable again, unlike her Mystery Incorporated counterpart.
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Post by jcb on Aug 6, 2014 15:53:28 GMT -5
nothing serious but thought it was funny lol Hilarious! Velma's design is my favorite! I hope they make her likeable again, unlike her Mystery Incorporated counterpart. Despite what people seem to believe the character designs suggest, I think you'll find this will be the most lovable, real, fully dimensional Scooby gang of all time.
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