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Post by shaggyfan86 on Oct 31, 2012 16:57:24 GMT -5
be the bait, that part in Big Top Scooby-Doo really ticked me off. They forced them to be the bait, to make it worse they were rushing them to do this, if I were Shaggy and Scooby I'd be freaked out to jump onto a moving train too, thats not safe yah know? They could get hurt, the others seemed to be only thinking about solving the case. Sorry, just saw the film and it really just gah!
Any one else bothered by this?
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Post by russm on Oct 31, 2012 17:22:14 GMT -5
It is just a cartoon you know and the real laws of physics need not apply. IIRC Daphne was also going to join them but the road parted before she could do so.
In WNSD Velma and Fred have both been the bait.
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Post by shaggyfan86 on Oct 31, 2012 18:39:50 GMT -5
Ignoring the fact that its a cartoon, they could have gotten hurt bad had they missed after jumping or some thing. The thing that irks me, Shaggy kept saying no no no over and over again yet well. The only time I feel sorry for them, is when Velma was bait when she was afraid of clowns. Fred loves this stuff, I thought the whole Fred being bossy and not caring about his friends thing stopped in the newer series. This is one of the few reasons why Velma and Fred are my least favorite of the gang  |
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Post by russm on Nov 1, 2012 2:44:39 GMT -5
No, they wouldn't have got hurt as it follows the same rules that allows Wile E Coyote to fall from hundreds of feet, bury himself into he ground and still get up and walk afterwards or Velma to run a full tilt while carrying the rest of the gang in her arms (or for her to not follow a ballistic trajectory when shot out of the cannon) but above all they writers wouldn't let it happen. The only one who got seriously hurt was Fred in the first episode on WNSD when he broke his leg. The same Fred who jumped from the top of the moving Mystery Machine onto the landing gear of a jumbo jet in the process of taking off (SD:MI).
It is the same thing that allows the trainer to use adult male baboons to rob the place and still have his face and limbs still attached to his body. And using them in a circus act, seriously baboons are one of the most dangerous primates on the planet (and that includes us, as for our size we're pretty wimpy apes when it comes down to it).
It is the same thing that allows Shaggy and Scooby to eat and eat yet not end up choking to death on food, their stomach tearing open, morbidly obesity and virtually immobile (running doesn't burn that many calories).
My point is this if you want to get picky there are a lot of holes to pick, it is cartoon, it follows different rules and in the same way as any other show the characters are written to play their particular part. In the real world they probably wouldn't have made it in the same way that Velma's clothes wouldn't have been blown off intact by the cannon.
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Post by shaggyfan86 on Nov 1, 2012 14:02:37 GMT -5
I said ignoring the fact that its a cartoon HA.
I just wish they wouldn't force them into doing this, they don't want to they shouldn't have to.
With Fred its different cuz he wants to solve things and do this, same for Velma and Daph.
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Post by russm on Nov 1, 2012 17:11:10 GMT -5
Then they should be retired/written out of the show. They got up to some bonkers activities in Shaggy and Scooby get a Clue, more dangerous than Big Top and none of the rest of the gang were there to make them do anything
You cannot ignore that it is in a cartoon, they are not real people, in a very literal sense they are cartoon characters.
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Post by ThatRainbowGirl on Nov 4, 2012 2:27:14 GMT -5
Shaggy and Scooby are always forced into being the bait despite saying no because it's a running gag. That's been around since the beginning.
That's all there is to it.
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Post by shaggyfan86 on Nov 4, 2012 12:50:04 GMT -5
Then they should be retired/written out of the show. They got up to some bonkers activities in Shaggy and Scooby get a Clue, more dangerous than Big Top and none of the rest of the gang were there to make them do anything You cannot ignore that it is in a cartoon, they are not real people, in a very literal sense they are cartoon characters. They weren't forced into though and did it for a family member. HA Like Scooby-Doo would retire the two most popular characters in the series  They are the most well known of the Scooby series too, thats why whenever a Scooby film comes out dispite it being about Velma/Daph or Fred they put Shaggy and Scooby in the promos intead. Heck this up coming wrestle flick you'd think it'd be about Fred since hes into that stuff but ;D |
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Post by ShaphneFan on Apr 6, 2016 1:13:53 GMT -5
I wish they would too. How often are the others really the bait, even if accidentally?
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Post by Soupperson on Apr 6, 2016 1:52:14 GMT -5
They explained in one episode of the Scooby Doo Show, Fred and Velma have to man the traps and Daphne can't do it because she's a girl and a slow runner.
In fairness there has been a few episodes even of the original where the three are the bait, it's rare but it's out there. (I'll edit this post when I find some episodes)
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Post by slicknickshady on Apr 6, 2016 3:38:32 GMT -5
I honestly can't get over all the times the gang almost dies in every movie, episode, and series. lol. I watch and go... DAYUM they almost died.
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Post by Soupperson on Apr 6, 2016 15:48:47 GMT -5
I honestly can't get over all the times the gang almost dies in every movie, episode, and series. lol. I watch and go... DAYUM they almost died. In fairness that's one if the reasons why I think the original works better than series like MI. As death is almost like a fictional place in the original where as in Mustery Incoperated people actually die. |
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Post by slicknickshady on Apr 6, 2016 16:17:31 GMT -5
I honestly can't get over all the times the gang almost dies in every movie, episode, and series. lol. I watch and go... DAYUM they almost died. In fairness that's one if the reasons why I think the original works better than series like MI. As death is almost like a fictional place in the original where as in Mustery Incoperated people actually die. I watched the pilot of Scooby Doo last night and the only time someone almost died is when Shaggy fell through the window. That was a big fall. haha. But you are correct..That's tame to some of the almost deaths in Whats New Scooby Doo and Mystery Incorporated. Cause yes, I think WNSD was almost as dangerous as MI. |
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Post by Soupperson on Apr 7, 2016 10:27:52 GMT -5
In fairness that's one if the reasons why I think the original works better than series like MI. As death is almost like a fictional place in the original where as in Mustery Incoperated people actually die. I watched the pilot of Scooby Doo last night and the only time someone almost died is when Shaggy fell through the window. That was a big fall. haha. But you are correct..That's tame to some of the almost deaths in Whats New Scooby Doo and Mystery Incorporated. Cause yes, I think WNSD was almost as dangerous as MI. What's New was treated more like a cartoon though, which made it seem more harmless. |
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Apr 7, 2016 11:08:13 GMT -5
What I found in the original series, it was easier to make Scooby do things because he's the dog and it's easier to sacrifice an animal than a human being. They love him, as they said in "Decoy for a Dognapper", but it's easier to see when you read between the lines, like people do with Fraphne.
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