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Post by scoobypediapossible on Feb 7, 2016 21:24:30 GMT -5
What would you like to see in the upcoming episodes that we both know and don't know about? Is there anything that you would like to see specificly to the gang or as individuals?
Personally, I'd like to see a flashback to when they first met, like a junior high version in Pup. We didn't get anything like that in SDMI, and couldn't get that in Mystery Begins because they were already teenagers. I'd also like to see just an ordinary flashback to when one of them when they younger to see what they looked like. We almost got a flashback in "All Paws on Deck" from Velma, but Fred cut her off.
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Post by somebody-doo on Feb 8, 2016 11:42:01 GMT -5
I'd like to see more old monsters. I agree, a flashback would be cool!
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Post by somebody-doo on Feb 9, 2016 16:27:54 GMT -5
Also, the Space Kook.
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Post by ShaphneFan on Feb 22, 2016 19:03:01 GMT -5
More episodes with daphne and shaggy working together.
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Post by jcb on Feb 22, 2016 19:42:54 GMT -5
More episodes with daphne and shaggy working together. Just curious (no judgement, here, just sincere curiosity). I'm not much of a "shipping" type of guy, so I wonder what the specific attraction of seeing Daphne and Shaggy being paired up, romantically or otherwise? What is it about these two characters that seeing them together is appealing. Do you also feel like you would want to see this using the BCSD version of these characters? How would you articulate the appeal of seeing them get/work together? What about their personalities/characters seem to compliment or contrast each other to suggest good stories? Again, I'm generally curious as the whole "ship" thing is an foreign concept to me.
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Post by ScoobyAddict on Feb 22, 2016 19:55:47 GMT -5
I beg you not to bring any relationship stuff into this series!! I hated that in SDMI! It took away from the gang working together to solve mysteries. Just my opinion!!
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Post by jcb on Feb 22, 2016 20:16:19 GMT -5
I beg you not to bring any relationship stuff into this series!! I hated that in SDMI! It took away from the gang working together to solve mysteries. Just my opinion!! No need to beg, SA. I have no plans on bringing in relationship stuff into the gang. I was not a fan of that aspect of SDMI and Zac and I agreed to lose it completely from BCSD, including the old Daphne and Fred crush idea that has permeated several other series and/or movies. That said, the gang are a bunch of 18 year-old kids and I have no problem exploring their characters through crushes or relationships with people outside the gang. Normally, we will play it as a lighthearted runner in order to push the main characters into interesting situations that further allow us to explore them as people.
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Post by ScoobyAddict on Feb 22, 2016 20:34:12 GMT -5
I beg you not to bring any relationship stuff into this series!! I hated that in SDMI! It took away from the gang working together to solve mysteries. Just my opinion!! No need to beg, SA. I have no plans on bringing in relationship stuff into the gang. I was not a fan of that aspect of SDMI and Zac and I agreed to lose it completely from BCSD, including the old Daphne and Fred crush idea that has permeated several other series and/or movies. That said, the gang are a bunch of 18 year-old kids and I have no problem exploring their characters through crushes or relationships with people outside the gang. Normally, we will play it as a lighthearted runner in order to push the main characters into interesting situations that further allow us to explore them as people. Good to know you feel the same way about the relationships between the gang members. I'm not sure how I feel about other relationships, but it could be ok as long as it isn't the focus of the episode.
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Post by somebody-doo on Feb 22, 2016 21:44:34 GMT -5
I beg you not to bring any relationship stuff into this series!! I hated that in SDMI! It took away from the gang working together to solve mysteries. Just my opinion!! No need to beg, SA. I have no plans on bringing in relationship stuff into the gang. I was not a fan of that aspect of SDMI and Zac and I agreed to lose it completely from BCSD, including the old Daphne and Fred crush idea that has permeated several other series and/or movies. That said, the gang are a bunch of 18 year-old kids and I have no problem exploring their characters through crushes or relationships with people outside the gang. Normally, we will play it as a lighthearted runner in order to push the main characters into interesting situations that further allow us to explore them as people. I always saw them as 17.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Feb 23, 2016 1:06:41 GMT -5
No need to beg, SA. I have no plans on bringing in relationship stuff into the gang. I was not a fan of that aspect of SDMI and Zac and I agreed to lose it completely from BCSD, including the old Daphne and Fred crush idea that has permeated several other series and/or movies. That said, the gang are a bunch of 18 year-old kids and I have no problem exploring their characters through crushes or relationships with people outside the gang. Normally, we will play it as a lighthearted runner in order to push the main characters into interesting situations that further allow us to explore them as people. Good to know you feel the same way about the relationships between the gang members. I'm not sure how I feel about other relationships, but it could be ok as long as it isn't the focus of the episode. "1899", it wasn't a romance episode, or even a romance subplot, or any plot, per say, but it did have that for Daphne. It worked so much better with Fred not being jealous, and I felt she was just sincere and innocent about her attraction to Brad, rather than majorly horny like she was with Paul Stanley, which led to Fred being portrayed in a negative light (mostly by Paul Stanley). She said things like "Hubba, hubba" (I think), but it still wasn't full blown hornyness (and I'm not exaggerating on that, at least that's how it came off to me), which has ruined her as character, in my opinion. The gang are real people who can find romance (and that's a trait in any human being), but there's ways to right about it and there's ways you don't. And I couldn't give "1899" more praise in that department. I have wondered what it would be like if the gang (in general, not just this show), actually began a relationship with a non-gang member, and how that affected the gang, because they're so close-knit and into mystery solving, that they don't seem to able to do anything outside of that.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Feb 23, 2016 1:11:52 GMT -5
I beg you not to bring any relationship stuff into this series!! I hated that in SDMI! It took away from the gang working together to solve mysteries. Just my opinion!! No need to beg, SA. I have no plans on bringing in relationship stuff into the gang. I was not a fan of that aspect of SDMI and Zac and I agreed to lose it completely from BCSD, including the old Daphne and Fred crush idea that has permeated several other series and/or movies. That said, the gang are a bunch of 18 year-old kids and I have no problem exploring their characters through crushes or relationships with people outside the gang. Normally, we will play it as a lighthearted runner in order to push the main characters into interesting situations that further allow us to explore them as people. I've been thinking about Velma and Fred recently, myself. They play off well with each other, and as crazy as it seems could actually work.
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Post by jcb on Feb 23, 2016 8:54:47 GMT -5
No need to beg, SA. I have no plans on bringing in relationship stuff into the gang. I was not a fan of that aspect of SDMI and Zac and I agreed to lose it completely from BCSD, including the old Daphne and Fred crush idea that has permeated several other series and/or movies. That said, the gang are a bunch of 18 year-old kids and I have no problem exploring their characters through crushes or relationships with people outside the gang. Normally, we will play it as a lighthearted runner in order to push the main characters into interesting situations that further allow us to explore them as people. I've been thinking about Velma and Fred recently, myself. They play off well with each other, and as crazy as it seems could actually work. Fred and Velma? I don't know about that. The main issue I had with SDMI was WHY does Velma like Shaggy - what about him would attract Velma and vice versa. I think the same would apply to Velma and Fred. We've even made Daphne so much more than just the obvious "pretty, rich girl who is into fashion" We really constructed this gang to contrast each other, and while I understand "opposites attract" and all that, I'm not sure it really works out that way in real life. I think the chemistry within the gang right now is well balanced and I see no good story reason to throw a wrench in that. If something seems like ti makes sense story-wise down the line, who knows? But right now, I'm not inclined to do any inner-gang romances at this point. Also, 1889, I never intended for Daphne to really return Bradwick's crush. He's handsome, but she's not into those kinda rich, snobby pretty boys she grew up with. That's not what she's about. She deflects his compliment ("Yeah, that's me: set for stun! Pew! Pew!") and rejects his offer to join up forces in solving the mystery ("I'll go solo queen") until he shows her he's good at it and can beat Fred. Later she does admit he has an attractive head when she fears the count has taken it, but, at every turn, she never falls for him or his charm. He's an old friend, who is objectively attractive, is all.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Feb 23, 2016 9:02:22 GMT -5
Velma and Shaggy were put together the same reason Fred and Daphne were put together, because of the same romantic implications in the original. While not the same as the latter pair, some can't help but see something between them. I only saw something between Shaggy and Daphne when they were the only two humans in the group, but that's just typical thinking.
And I also appreciate that about Daphne as well, JCB. And also am enjoying the no inner-gang romances. We don't need unnecessary complications, when we've just started exploring the new stuff between them and how they work.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Feb 23, 2016 9:06:07 GMT -5
I've said before how I thought it'd be ironic if Fred started liking all of Daphne's quirks, but I don't think (at the moment at least and nowhere in the near future) their friendship or the writing should be compromised to make that happen. I'm glad there isn't even a romantic subtext to there relationship: It's not always "You three go off together, and Daphne and I will go off together."
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Post by ShaphneFan on Feb 24, 2016 1:52:24 GMT -5
More episodes with daphne and shaggy working together. Just curious (no judgement, here, just sincere curiosity). I'm not much of a "shipping" type of guy, so I wonder what the specific attraction of seeing Daphne and Shaggy being paired up, romantically or otherwise? What is it about these two characters that seeing them together is appealing. Do you also feel like you would want to see this using the BCSD version of these characters? How would you articulate the appeal of seeing them get/work together? What about their personalities/characters seem to compliment or contrast each other to suggest good stories? Again, I'm generally curious as the whole "ship" thing is an foreign concept to me. OH gosh no! Please no! I like shipping but I would not ask for that out of any show that I follow. That's one reason one I didn't like MI because of the shipping. I want to say other wise because we normally don't see them splitting up like that. It's always Fred, Daphne, and Velma. Or Velma, shaggy, and scooby. There's not much of a variety in the old seasons this way. That's one particular reason why I like grand scam because they do interact more. I like seeing how the characters interact with each other and how they play off of each other. Shaggy is one of my favorite characters next to Daphne so to see them interact more is fun (hence I ship, I like to pair of characters that are my favorites). That's one reason why I like 13 ghosts and the shorts because I see them getting along and complimenting each other. I really can't describe what I'd like to see, but in all to act like friends. MI and maybe a bit of the original, I couldn't really see any of the characters act like friends until the later seasons and what's new. So I'd just like to see more variety of them splitting up and more interactions of the characters. At least those that we don't normally see getting along. So I'd also think it'd be interesting to see Fred, shaggy, and scooby split up. Or even Daphne and Velma acting like gal pals. The whole reason I suggested shaggy and daphne is because I enjoy their characters in how they interact and I think they should have more screen time. This Daphne is pretty awesome and some of her quirks could play off awesomely with Shaggys (depending on what it is).
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