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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 24, 2016 9:26:16 GMT -5
I've probably invested too much time (and creativity) in Scoobypedia to start an independent wiki (let along the know how to do it independently, which I've tried), but at the same time, with the changes Wikia makes, it makes me wonder about going solo (to an extent). So I was wondering if anybody would be interested in starting up (because they know more than me) an independent Scooby-Doo wiki. Obviously it would be starting from scratch for me and it would still be hosted by someone, but it would allow more freedom. GargWiki actually has it so people can sign up, but still have to request/be given permission to able to edit (more control! I can hear the groans now). The downside would be the cost of the servers and what not (if an upgrade was needed). I would also be hesitant to leave Scoobypedia if the new failed, as I'd have nothing left (I couldn't exaclty go back or do both sites at the same time).  |
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 24, 2016 9:41:21 GMT -5
When the people in charge of Wikia hosted Transformers site moved to their own site (TFWiki.net), they actually had no qualms with just copy/pasting their work.
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Post by scooby1 on Jan 24, 2016 13:48:50 GMT -5
I've probably invested too much time (and creativity) in Scoobypedia to start an independent wiki (let along the know how to do it independently, which I've tried), but at the same time, with the changes Wikia makes, it makes me wonder about going solo (to an extent). So I was wondering if anybody would be interested in starting up (because they know more than me) an independent Scooby-Doo wiki. Obviously it would be starting from scratch for me and it would still be hosted by someone, but it would allow more freedom. GargWiki actually has it so people can sign up, but still have to request/be given permission to able to edit (more control! I can hear the groans now). The downside would be the cost of the servers and what not (if an upgrade was needed). I would also be hesitant to leave Scoobypedia if the new failed, as I'd have nothing left (I couldn't exaclty go back or do both sites at the same time). If I were you I would just try to join an existing site, like this one (scooby addicts) or scooby fan, or scooby snax (which is struggling so you should probably try that first). It will be a lot easier for you to join someone else's than to completely start from scratch and have basically no viewer base because nobody knows if your reliable or not. |
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 24, 2016 15:12:48 GMT -5
I've probably invested too much time (and creativity) in Scoobypedia to start an independent wiki (let along the know how to do it independently, which I've tried), but at the same time, with the changes Wikia makes, it makes me wonder about going solo (to an extent). So I was wondering if anybody would be interested in starting up (because they know more than me) an independent Scooby-Doo wiki. Obviously it would be starting from scratch for me and it would still be hosted by someone, but it would allow more freedom. GargWiki actually has it so people can sign up, but still have to request/be given permission to able to edit (more control! I can hear the groans now). The downside would be the cost of the servers and what not (if an upgrade was needed). I would also be hesitant to leave Scoobypedia if the new failed, as I'd have nothing left (I couldn't exaclty go back or do both sites at the same time). If I were you I would just try to join an existing site, like this one (scooby addicts) or scooby fan, or scooby snax (which is struggling so you should probably try that first). It will be a lot easier for you to join someone else's than to completely start from scratch and have basically no viewer base because nobody knows if your reliable or not. Thanks for your input. Let me backtrack a bit for those who don't know. I'm admin of the fan encyclopedia Scoobypedia, hosted by Wikia. I get a little fed up sometimes with their changes, combined with users who I find incompetent and unhelpful (you say about people not trusting me, well it's actually the trust of other users I have a problem with). I can't fully depend on a lot of them (although there a few good ones). An independent wiki would solve both of those issues. Those sites and this one are great, but they wouldn't be the same. |
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Post by Matt_the_miner_49er on Jan 25, 2016 7:49:25 GMT -5
Please don't take what I'm about to say to heart, but it's just scooby do mate. The base you are trying to appeal to is very specialized, such a small niche. Look at this site and how little traffic it gets and the only reason most of us get on here is because it has the feature to discuss and fellowship. If this project would be a fun little hobby I'd say go for it but it will obviously cost you money and stressful work with no return on your investment. Like was said above, you are much better off joining an existing site :/ and don't concern yourself so much with inaccurate information, it's everywhere. We've got the news media making up stories when the video of what the person actually said are easily accessible on YouTube lol its just the way of the Internet unfortunately
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Post by scooby1 on Jan 25, 2016 8:42:39 GMT -5
Please don't take what I'm about to say to heart, but it's just scooby do mate. The base you are trying to appeal to is very specialized, such a small niche. Look at this site and how little traffic it gets and the only reason most of us get on here is because it has the feature to discuss and fellowship. If this project would be a fun little hobby I'd say go for it but it will obviously cost you money and stressful work with no return on your investment. Like was said above, you are much better off joining an existing site :/ and don't concern yourself so much with inaccurate information, it's everywhere. We've got the news media making up stories when the video of what the person actually said are easily accessible on YouTube lol its just the way of the Internet unfortunately I agree with you, don't stress out about scooby foo, it's not worth it. |
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 25, 2016 8:43:59 GMT -5
I think you both miss my point entirely.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 25, 2016 8:50:25 GMT -5
If any of the higher ups want to discuss this with they can do here or private. That's why I was really making this post. If you don't want care about what this post is then don't worry yourself about telling me how I shouldn't stress over it because "It's just Scooby-Doo". The fact that it's Scooby-Doo (ha ha, it's Scooby-Doo, lol), has got nothing to do with it. You're just using that as an excuse for my aforementioned bracketed reasons. It just so happens that this site is here about Scooby-Doo, and I'm making a post about branching out into my own one (but I just need help with it). As I said before, you don't seem to get where I'm coming from (and I've already "joined" these other sites, but these are either news and/or forum sites, and as I've said in a previous post, that's not what I'm going for). And these sites are great, but if you bothered going onto Scoobypedia, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about and that I'm going for something quite different in approach. At the moment, it just seems like I'm putting up with Scoobypedia, and making the most of what I can with Wikia's intrusive changes.
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Post by Matt_the_miner_49er on Jan 25, 2016 16:11:28 GMT -5
I think it's easy for us to miss the point when you yourself don't know the point....
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Post by scooby1 on Jan 25, 2016 16:18:31 GMT -5
I think it's easy for us to miss the point when you yourself don't know the point.... Exactly |
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 25, 2016 16:19:30 GMT -5
I think it's easy for us to miss the point when you yourself don't know the point.... Exactly What don't I get? |
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 25, 2016 20:27:38 GMT -5
Looks like half my problem is being solved. Wikia said they'd get the bad ad space removed, so at least there's that.
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Post by Doo on Jan 25, 2016 20:37:46 GMT -5
Just a reminder guys, try to stay civil with the comments towards one another just so we don't get into an argument that got the other thread locked. Thanks  |
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Post by mattpricetime on Jan 25, 2016 22:39:26 GMT -5
Looks like half my problem is being solved. Wikia said they'd get the bad ad space removed, so at least there's that. Out of curiosity does that mean they'll do away (or at least reduce the size) of those large ads to the right that often have next to nothing to do with the subject of the wikia i'm on? |
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 26, 2016 9:38:18 GMT -5
Looks like half my problem is being solved. Wikia said they'd get the bad ad space removed, so at least there's that. Out of curiosity does that mean they'll do away (or at least reduce the size) of those large ads to the right that often have next to nothing to do with the subject of the wikia i'm on? I can't be sure at this point. I was told to go and report it here (which I did, and you're welcome to do the same or if you're not in charge tell the person who is if he/she feels the same way), and the response I got was understanding, yet it still remains, so I'm not sure when they'll get onto that. For some reason Wikia let's that in. On Central Wikia, I was told that it had nothing to do with "The Home of Fandom" changes, but I'm pretty sure the ads happened at the same time (and they force these experiments just to get feedback of people who either are going to like or hate it), so I'm still a little suspicious. In another email I sent previously, another person said it could not be removed by them, but I could do it myself through CSS, which is always a problem for me. |
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