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Post by Doo on Oct 29, 2014 17:32:15 GMT -5
While searching for some facts for my latest "Fact of the Week" on my site's blog, I found something really interesting about this episode: This episode has not been shown anywhere in the US since October 2, 2011 on Boomerang. Pretty sad if you think about it.
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Post by scoob16 on Oct 31, 2014 14:01:49 GMT -5
Not surprised... This episode is not very known... Every channel is just airing the WNSD Halloween special.
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Post by mattpricetime on Nov 8, 2014 9:39:44 GMT -5
Well What's New is in better circulation, so it would follow the Halloween special of the most circulated one gets shown far more often.
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Post by Ark on Apr 10, 2015 12:31:42 GMT -5
Wonder if there's a licensing issue? Didn't they remove it from the 13 tales DVD it was going to be put on? I think this whole Season has transfer quality or licensing issues. Wish they could release a box set of whatever they have though.
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Post by scoob16 on Apr 11, 2015 12:28:54 GMT -5
Maybe there is. I have the Ruh-Roh Robot DVD and the quality of the New Mysteries episodes is not really good.
I guess that's why they removed this episode from Run for Your 'Rife in the first place.
I just hope we get a complete series release of the show.
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Post by Ark on Apr 11, 2015 13:05:12 GMT -5
I know!!! I love this mini series! They used to have it up for free on warnerbros' kids website for free, but come to think of it, the quality was bad there as well. Dang. I really hope they have a master backup they can convert to higher quality. Maybe even someone's old video tape backup might be better haha.
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Post by Ark on Apr 11, 2015 13:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by Ark on Apr 11, 2015 13:07:20 GMT -5
Certainly something fishy going on haha. Can only hope for the best (a dvd box set!?) though.
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Post by mattpricetime on Apr 13, 2015 21:45:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't read that much into it. For the record the "masters" of all of these are in the Warner Brothers vault. The versions you see on Cartoon Network/Boomerang were taken from those masters years ago, and reflect then.
Warner Archive works directly from the vault. And they had to remaster (if not at least digitally clean up) a lot of the releases. But some of the earlier ones aren't at all and it shows more artifacts then later ones. This also shows some interesting things. The SWAT Kat set lacks the additional footage you saw on CN/Boom because those filler segments aren't on the masters, only on the copies for airing, but those vault masters did have a full scene that was censored on the copies for airing.
Warner Home Video has been accused in some cases of cheaply going through some of those alternate copies for dvd releases. Such as The Perils of Penelope Pitstop's credits.
I don't think much has been done to any of the Scooby's seasons for the current slate of releases. Which is going to vary on how important anything thinks it is/was that they didn't.
I'd wager if there is a reason why they changed their mind on including this one early may be because it's generally considered a favorite and one they'd rather keep as one's you'd need to buy the season set for.
Also relevant to the argument their is the digital side of WHV that seems to do whatever the (insert word here) they want. They've had most of the Scooby seasons up but skipped one for whatever reason. I've even managed to stump Warner Archive about them, as for all intents and purposes no matter who else you ask the Smurfs vault masters are a huge mess. And is no doubt a major reason why they took so long to stall out the releases to cash grab money to afford fixing them. The digital team however clearly used a set different from the vault masters for those releases. I'd imagine the Scooby ones there may also not be the vault ones.
If anything perhaps the copies for airing on some of this series got screwed up or went missing and no one at WHV is going to care to up to the vault until it's time to do the season set where they need all of them. Perhaps when they wanted to include this one in the one set they discovered there wasn't an easy copy right away available without going to the vault and changed it late because of that.
So probably either that or they didn't feel like giving that one away as a sampling bonus. As if you crunch the numbers they've not eliminated any of the potential season sets with the samplers if you want a full collection, you'd still need to buy each of those potential sets still.
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Post by Ark on Apr 13, 2015 22:03:45 GMT -5
Makes sense. Thanks. I sure hope they have higher quality of tNSDM in the vault and will release someday. Great news if so.
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Post by mattpricetime on Apr 14, 2015 0:03:20 GMT -5
It might also be worth noting, how many times have we mentioned the "themes" of some of those 13 Spooky Tales one's don't make sense or "why this episode double dipped and not this one". I had been assuming it was mostly just to leave some exclusive to the potential season set. And to stall up some more cash for affording clearance issues with the New Scooby Movies.
But if they are also being influenced by what copies they easily have available, that might add a whole other dimension to that train of thought.
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Post by Ark on Jun 4, 2016 18:30:49 GMT -5
I didn't catch before that the vault could be unorganized. Yikes. Also, weren't these episodes digitally colored? Maybe the masters aren't colored or something weird like that.
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