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Post by matt on Apr 19, 2021 0:03:59 GMT -5
What are some of the episodes of Scooby Doo you just don’t like?
For me, I like to stick to the series I actually really like because it’s an easier comparison to the good episodes as opposed to it just not being my favorite series in general, so I’m not including episodes from Get a Clue, Scrappy shorts, or even Guess Who in my personal list
With that being said, Ransom of Scooby Chief is my least favorite episode of all time I think. Some of the weaker ones in no particular order include:
Ransom of Scooby Chief
Mystery in Persia
Ghost of the Red Baron
Jeepers It’s the Jaguaro
Watch out the Willawaw
Camp Comeoniwannascareya
Recipe for Disaster
Big Scare in Little Tokyo
Dog Gone Scooby
She Sees Sea Monster by the Sea Shore
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Post by Doo on Apr 19, 2021 8:19:33 GMT -5
These are the ones that come to mind for me:
Mystery in Persia
Jeepers It's the Jaguaro
Catcher on the Sly
The Ransom of Scooby Chief
A Mystery Solving Gang Divided
The Fastest Food Fiend
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Post by Ark on Apr 19, 2021 15:04:27 GMT -5
The Jaguaro episode is kinda based on an old "I love a Mystery" setting and though I can see why it's disliked, I can't list it myself. Also, I'm working on an entire game based on Ransom of Scooby, so I can't list that either, haha! Well, the Scrappy's gang part at least.
Needless to say... I'm not sure there's many episodes I dislike. From TNSDMovies era there are a few I don't like that much, I suppose. It's fun to meet the Harlem Globetrotters, but by the (3rd?) episode with repeated Redbeard and all, that can get a bit tiring. The episodes are longer, sometimes without much more added than what you'd expect from a regular-length episode.
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Post by snesgamer83 on Apr 20, 2021 2:31:34 GMT -5
Aside from the obvious stinkers that most fans put low on their lists like Get a Clue and the Scrappy shorts, I feel that New Scooby-Doo Movies was by far the weakest series in the "Classic Era", and wow - following right on the heels of the original show at that!
The pacing was just really horrible, not to mention many re-used/re-skinned assets. Some of the worst of these offenders were the Stooges episodes. Speaking of reskinned characters, I also always found the Scooby-Doo Show ep The Ghost of the Bad Humor Man extremely boring.
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Post by Ark on Apr 20, 2021 2:45:03 GMT -5
I want to believe that TNSDMovies had a sudden time quota of 40 mins after writing the episodes as 20 minute ones. It would make more sense of many of the odd time-wasting sequences.
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2021 13:00:05 GMT -5
I also always found the Scooby-Doo Show ep The Ghost of the Bad Humor Man extremely boring. Now there is an unpopular one right there. Personally, I couldn't disagree with you more as that is one of my favorites of all time, but I certainly respect it |
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2021 13:01:44 GMT -5
I want to believe that TNSDMovies had a sudden time quota of 40 mins after writing the episodes as 20 minute ones. It would make more sense of many of the odd time-wasting sequences. I think it probably just had to do with writers running out of ideas for certain episodes. It's a shame, really, because I absolutely adored the fact that they were longer episodes when the timing was utilized correctly |
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Post by cometcrystal on Apr 20, 2021 20:33:46 GMT -5
I can't stand Mystery in Persia, either. That seems to be a theme. Also, Mystery Mask Mix-up is too constantly racist for me to ever wanna watch it again.
I also hate Stand and Deliver from SDMI with the Dandy Highwayman. The sexism played for jokes was so tiring.
Get a Clue had that movie-related episode with the talking pig (Super Scary Movie Night). That checked off all the "Dott will hate this" boxes.
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2021 21:24:44 GMT -5
I can't stand Mystery in Persia, either. That seems to be a theme. From what I have seen, here and other places, Mystery in Persia, Jeepers it’s the Jaguaro, and Ransom of Scooby Chief are the episodes that pop up the most in these conversations, especially from the old classic format before the Scrappy shorts. They are all on my list so I can’t say I disagree with them either |
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2021 21:29:57 GMT -5
Also, Mystery Mask Mix-up is too constantly racist for me to ever wanna watch it again. That’s always been what keeps that episode towards the bottom of the list of the series for me despite having some great gags and such But an episode like Scooby Dooby Guru would be an example of a racist and offensive episode that is also just really bad and has nothing good in it. That one should probably be on this list |
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Post by Ark on Apr 20, 2021 22:50:30 GMT -5
Considering that Scooby-Doo came out in the '60s, it's pretty neat that the majority of it still stands untainted by racist or sexist themes. Even other Hanna-Barbera properties such as The Flintstones and Johnny Quest have disclaimers and warnings about being "products of their time" and all that. Inclusivity was always a part of Scooby-Doo, from traveling the world to having a variety of strong protagonists. Also, Casey Kasem was vocal about how Aladdin (and by extension, Scooby-Doo in Arabian Nights) depicted people from the Middle East and how we needed a "fairer depiction of heroes and villains on behalf of all cultures" and it was partially thanks to this that the song at the beginning of Aladdin was altered.
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2021 23:56:50 GMT -5
Considering that Scooby-Doo came out in the '60s, it's pretty neat that the majority of it still stands untainted by racist or sexist themes. Even other Hanna-Barbera properties such as The Flintstones and Johnny Quest have disclaimers and warnings about being "products of their time" and all that. Inclusivity was always a part of Scooby-Doo, from traveling the world to having a variety of strong protagonists. Also, Casey Kasem was vocal about how Aladdin (and by extension, Scooby-Doo in Arabian Nights) depicted people from the Middle East and how we needed a "fairer depiction of heroes and villains on behalf of all cultures" and it was partially thanks to this that the song at the beginning of Aladdin was altered. Those things definitely exist within Scooby episodes (such as Fred’s jokes in the desert to Daphne about women in Ghastly Ghost Town which were not only sexist but also really uncalled for and having no point of even being in the episode), but I absolutely do agree that for it being so old and having gone on so long it’s not near as bad as it could be |
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Post by Ark on Apr 21, 2021 1:19:05 GMT -5
Yeah, Fred is particularly mean in that episode for no real reason.
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Post by Ark on Apr 21, 2021 15:38:52 GMT -5
The Warlock episode is weaker than others of that series, but the tennis setting was pretty unique. Could be a fun theme to revisit, but monster is the opponent. Old TBS Hanna-Barbera cartoon blocks had advertisements for real tennis matches, using silly cartoon scenarios in the ads. A kid would hit a gnawed off tree back to an evil opponent who had tossed it to him over the tennis net, Space Ghost would intervene and kick the ball/projectile back at the villain, etc.
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Post by matt on Apr 21, 2021 16:19:07 GMT -5
The Warlock episode is weaker than others of that series, but the tennis setting was pretty unique. Could be a fun theme to revisit, but monster is the opponent. Old TBS Hanna-Barbera cartoon blocks had advertisements for real tennis matches, using silly cartoon scenarios in the ads. A kid would hit a gnawed off tree back to an evil opponent who had tossed it to him over the tennis net, Space Ghost would intervene and kick the ball/projectile back at the villain, etc. I’ve actually turned around a little bit on that one since then. I think the glasses premise and the ghost design are both absolutely ridiculous, but the first half of the episode is genuinely good, but even as a tennis fan the second half of the episode during the day is just not very good. And that info about the tennis ads is pretty interesting |
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