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Post by Ark on Jun 10, 2021 0:33:23 GMT -5
Another thing with DVD from above: I may have already mentioned it, but the millennium copyright act and DVD encryption. Basically, ripping a DVD is only illegal because it has an extremely simple encryption put on it, which does absolutely nothing to stop filesharing but makes it illegal for consumers to break and thus make their otherwise legally allowed second backup copy impossible to make legally.
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Post by Dyland on Jun 10, 2021 12:21:20 GMT -5
Another thing with DVD from above: I may have already mentioned it, but the millennium copyright act and DVD encryption. Basically, ripping a DVD is only illegal because it has an extremely simple encryption put on it, which does absolutely nothing to stop filesharing but makes it illegal for consumers to break and thus make their otherwise legally allowed second backup copy impossible to make legally. It's obviously safer to err on the side of caution, however, I was under the impression that those 2 laws conflicted.
1 says you can make a backup.
1 says you can't break encryption.
Coppying the entire ISO aside (which, theoretically, doesn't break encryption if it's a 1-to-1 bit perfect copy), the two laws say differing things. And, to my knowledge, nobody has ever been taken to the supreme court over it to once-and-for-all legally clarify the issue. And, honestly, if anything, the studios would probably settle before it got that far because they're worried the ruling wouldn't be in their favor in the long run.
It's such a "technically" illegal, but legal at the same time, but still illegal sort of confusion.
But, like I said, better to be safe than sorry!
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Post by Ark on Jun 10, 2021 16:32:54 GMT -5
Another thing with DVD from above: I may have already mentioned it, but the millennium copyright act and DVD encryption. Basically, ripping a DVD is only illegal because it has an extremely simple encryption put on it, which does absolutely nothing to stop filesharing but makes it illegal for consumers to break and thus make their otherwise legally allowed second backup copy impossible to make legally. It's obviously safer to err on the side of caution, however, I was under the impression that those 2 laws conflicted.
1 says you can make a backup.
1 says you can't break encryption.
Coppying the entire ISO aside (which, theoretically, doesn't break encryption if it's a 1-to-1 bit perfect copy), the two laws say differing things. And, to my knowledge, nobody has ever been taken to the supreme court over it to once-and-for-all legally clarify the issue. And, honestly, if anything, the studios would probably settle before it got that far because they're worried the ruling wouldn't be in their favor in the long run.
It's such a "technically" illegal, but legal at the same time, but still illegal sort of confusion.
But, like I said, better to be safe than sorry!
CleanFlix has indeed been taken to court. The encryption-cracking is how the movie industry put them out of business. Don't get wrong, I make MKVs of my expensive Blurays with little guilt and the ISO idea is a good one. No encryption to "break". |
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Post by Ark on Jun 10, 2021 16:37:48 GMT -5
And... I'm wrong.
"Finally, the judge notes that the studios did not make a DMCA claim, even though CleanFlicks was circumventing the encryption on DVDs into order to enable its editing. (The studios say they could have brought such a claim but chose not to.) Why they chose not to is an interesting question. I think Tim Lee is probably right here: the studios were feeling defensive about the overbreadth of the DMCA, so they didn’t want to generate more conservative opponents of the DMCA by winning this case on DMCA grounds."
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Post by Dyland on Jun 10, 2021 19:51:41 GMT -5
I meant in terms of an individual being taken to court, not a company. But that's a very interesting find, arkmabat! Great read. Yeah, it's definitely a weird legal position when two laws seemingly are mutually exclusive of each other. I wonder if we will ever get a clearing up of that, whether through a new law, or a revision of one of the old ones officially.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jun 17, 2021 0:31:58 GMT -5
Hopefully this doesn't bury the lead by covering it here but Hanna Barbera's The Herculoids is getting a bluray release from Warner Archive next month. Preorder link is up at TCM Shop. There were three tv series dvds in that option, more than the last several months.
Weirdly that Warner Archive email update did make mention of that one movie (Guns For San Sebastian) was indeed also getting a dvd release too. It either got pushed back or is exclusive to some website that doesn't come up with a simple google search.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jun 29, 2021 4:58:18 GMT -5
I do believe I found the offending article that started a whole lot of the confusion, ironically it's still up with the on purpose misleading headline to gather clicks even though if you read the whole thing you'd spot the correction added.
As what should be apparent the major reason why so much of Warner's video department is being gutted was because now that they have SDS with Universal this new organization is taking over those responsibilities.
But it does answer one question though, it does look like all those Adult Swim re-releases are going to be going to stores. Before this I would have pegged them as Warner Archive releases. Obviously SDS may have a MOD line once the pipeline the Warner Archive team started runs out. But then the brand of Warner Archive may also be retired.
Of course how much of this was kilar's idea will play a part in if Warner Discovery plans to change it or keep it.
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