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Post by obookla on Feb 10, 2021 13:33:59 GMT -5
Hi . I remember an episode where Scoobie and Shaggy are kneeling beside their bed saying their prayers, before hopping into bed and pulling over the duvet. Does anyone remember this episode from sometime in the 70’s ?
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Post by Doo on Feb 10, 2021 14:58:37 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum Obookla! Yes! The episode is "The Mystery of Haunted Island" from The New Scooby-Doo Movies. It aired in 1973.
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Post by Ark on Feb 10, 2021 20:48:45 GMT -5
"Like... We'd BETTER PRAY SOME MORE, SCOOB!"
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Post by obookla on Feb 20, 2021 17:51:31 GMT -5
Thanks for that. The reason I asked is that when I was a kid around 8 years old, I was at mass ( catholic ) and the priest was giving a sermon, in which he said that cartoons were evil and the work of the devil, he continued “ Have you ever seen Scoobie Doo saying his prayers “ . Seriously yes ? . Anyway I was a big cartoon fan and wasn’t going to stop looking at them. But I decided I’d keep a lookout to see if Scoobie said his prayers. Believe it or not , the very next episode Scoobie and Shaggy were kneeling beside their bed saying their prayers, just like we did. I think it gave me a lifelong mistrust of priests. Also I think it was an incredible coincidence, even synchronicity. I’d be surprised if there is any other scene in all the hundreds of Scoobie Doo episodes in which they are kneeling down saying prayers. I have actually bought the DVD and watched the episode ( 48 years later ) . I had at times thought about it , and was pretty sure it happened as the memory was so vivid. However I couldn’t be 100% sure . So surfing the net a couple of weeks ago , I stumbled upon this forum. Thanks again for helping verify this memory.
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Post by matt on Feb 20, 2021 18:06:22 GMT -5
Thanks for that. The reason I asked is that when I was a kid around 8 years old, I was at mass ( catholic ) and the priest was giving a sermon, in which he said that cartoons were evil and the work of the devil, he continued “ Have you ever seen Scoobie Doo saying his prayers “ . Seriously yes ? . Anyway I was a big cartoon fan and wasn’t going to stop looking at them. But I decided I’d keep a lookout to see if Scoobie said his prayers. Believe it or not , the very next episode Scoobie and Shaggy were kneeling beside their bed saying their prayers, just like we did. I think it gave me a lifelong mistrust of priests. Also I think it was an incredible coincidence, even synchronicity. I’d be surprised if there is any other scene in all the hundreds of Scoobie Doo episodes in which they are kneeling down saying prayers. I have actually bought the DVD and watched the episode ( 48 years later ) . I had at times thought about it , and was pretty sure it happened as the memory was so vivid. However I couldn’t be 100% sure . So surfing the net a couple of weeks ago , I stumbled upon this forum. Thanks again for helping verify this memory. As a Christian myself (Protestant, but still), I'd say that priest needs to get his priorities in order. What a ridiculous statement
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Post by spookydoo on Feb 21, 2021 12:49:03 GMT -5
“ Have you ever seen Scoobie Doo saying his prayers “ Well, Scooby is a Great Dane and the Danish have been Protestant for several centuries now, so I guess a Catholic priest may not particularly like them. Of course, as a dog, Scooby is unlikely to profess any religion whatsoever. Cool synchronicity though!
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Post by matt on Feb 21, 2021 13:20:08 GMT -5
Thanks for that. The reason I asked is that when I was a kid around 8 years old, I was at mass ( catholic ) and the priest was giving a sermon, in which he said that cartoons were evil and the work of the devil, he continued “ Have you ever seen Scoobie Doo saying his prayers “ . Seriously yes ? . Anyway I was a big cartoon fan and wasn’t going to stop looking at them. But I decided I’d keep a lookout to see if Scoobie said his prayers. Believe it or not , the very next episode Scoobie and Shaggy were kneeling beside their bed saying their prayers, just like we did. I think it gave me a lifelong mistrust of priests. Also I think it was an incredible coincidence, even synchronicity. I’d be surprised if there is any other scene in all the hundreds of Scoobie Doo episodes in which they are kneeling down saying prayers. I have actually bought the DVD and watched the episode ( 48 years later ) . I had at times thought about it , and was pretty sure it happened as the memory was so vivid. However I couldn’t be 100% sure . So surfing the net a couple of weeks ago , I stumbled upon this forum. Thanks again for helping verify this memory. As a Christian myself (Protestant, but still), I'd say that priest needs to get his priorities in order. What a ridiculous statement Also, not to mention, Hanna Barbera has done Bible stories before, like "The Greatest Adventure: Stories from the Bible"
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Post by obookla on Feb 22, 2021 8:27:14 GMT -5
Religion was not my theme here really but the Synchronisity of the event . I think it could be seen as a sign from a Greater power, after all we may be the cartoons projected on this world by some all seeing cartoon Maker. Anyway everyone has their beliefs and I certainly don’t want to start a thread on what appears to be a potentially divisive subject. In saying that , I wonder how he thought that Scoobie didn’t say his prayers ? Did he look at Scoobie every week to check ? Maybe he was checking up on Bugs Bunny also ?
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Post by Doo on Feb 22, 2021 10:16:31 GMT -5
In saying that , I wonder how he thought that Scoobie didn’t say his prayers ? Did he look at Scoobie every week to check ? Maybe he was checking up on Bugs Bunny also ? Presumably it was just an educated guess on his part that there was no scene in Scooby-Doo where they prayed. I remember a similar situation with my Creative Writing professor in college saying that we should not write unnecessary scenes in our stories because it will bore the audience, citing that people would have been bored if there was a scene in The Hunger Games where Katniss went to the bathroom. In actuality, there is a brief scene where Katniss hides in the bathroom in the second book (though it's taken out of the movie) haha.
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Post by spookydoo on Feb 22, 2021 12:40:12 GMT -5
Religion was not my theme here really but the Synchronisity of the event . I think it could be seen as a sign from a Greater power, after all we may be the cartoons projected on this world by some all seeing cartoon Maker. Anyway everyone has their beliefs and I certainly don’t want to start a thread on what appears to be a potentially divisive subject. In saying that , I wonder how he thought that Scoobie didn’t say his prayers ? Did he look at Scoobie every week to check ? Maybe he was checking up on Bugs Bunny also ? Wasn't there something about The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo (1985) being targeted by one of those American watchdog groups? It was supposedly too "obscene" for children... or maybe that's just Mary Whitehouse. Doo, you are referring to the Law of Conservation of Detail, right? Unimportant stuff is excluded from a work of fiction, because it does not contribute to the plot. We don't see the gang going to the store to buy Scooby Snacks, we just accept that they have them and move on with the story.
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Post by Ark on Feb 22, 2021 12:42:05 GMT -5
If there's one thing I've found from role-playing as Flim-Flam and Scrappy, it's that unnecessary scenes can be the most fun to write though!
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Post by Ark on Feb 22, 2021 12:53:50 GMT -5
Spookydoo, 13 Ghosts had hints of D&D influence and anything that did at that time was often labeled as dangerous. This was before RPG video games had been popularized and before tabletop RPGs (and cosplay by extension) were acceptable to the general public. Have you seen the "Chick Tract" of that time? My internet is running slow, but I think you can still read/buy it here: www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0046 (written for kids and teens, but ironically I'd say it's not safe for children to read). The warped portrayal of tabletop gaming was so strange that it was turned into a game itself: www.drivethrurpg.com/product/237295/Attack-The-Darkness When you die in regular D&D, you aren't shunned or turned into an outcast, if anything, the person running that game will let you make a new character or come back as a friendly ghost or something. Losing a player messes up the whole balance of the game, and if anything, the gamemaster is trying desperately to keep their players alive; death is a rare occurrence. The Chick Tract portrayal is all kinds of wrong-- somehow mixing fear of Wicca in too-- which really has nothing to do with D&D.
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Post by Ark on Feb 22, 2021 14:14:02 GMT -5
How Disney got away with releasing The Black Cauldron is kind of a miracle.
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Post by spookydoo on Feb 22, 2021 14:59:23 GMT -5
How Disney got away with releasing The Black Cauldron is kind of a miracle. How anyone got anything released back then is the bigger miracle. D&D? "Wizards and Warlocks", a segment from The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show (1983), immediately came to mind when I read that. The watchdogs must have been asleep when it was originally broadcast. All of this reminds me of the "Harry Potter" controversy and how some people reacted to it. The Church was against it, as they argued that magic is intrinsically evil, etc. Most people (myself included, though I was just a child at the time) couldn't care less about it. I also recall a priest's son at high school being a fan of The Lord of the Rings. Or maybe that one doesn't count, as it was written by a devout Catholic, while "Potter" wasn't.
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Post by russm on Feb 22, 2021 15:53:40 GMT -5
The 'Satanic Panic' I think it's been called, whereas Senetor McCarthy saw 'Reds under the bed', right-wing Evangleical Christians saw 'Demons under the bed'.
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