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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Sept 16, 2020 21:39:16 GMT -5
Happy Halloween, Scooby-Doo is more than worth the hype. Best Scooby movie since Frankencreepy. Can Maxwell Atoms just write all of these from now on? A Few Notes: This movie felt like it combined the best elements of Be Cool and Mystery Incorporated. Daphne was almost exactly like her Be Cool characterization. This movie was so action packed without being brainless like Scoob. Just a superior movie all around. Velma is awesome in this and her arc retroactively justifies her characterization in the previous films (though I still don't think they needed to drag Zombie Island through the mud to accomplish this) The Red Herring cameo is cool. A perfect easter egg. I personally would have preferred the villain be a classic Scooby villain instead of one invented for the movie. But it still works. Scarecrow was well-integrated into the plot to the point that you forget he's a Batman character. The final gag was so Billy & Mandy Phyllis Diller is canon? Boy, does that raise further questions about the gang's age
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Post by danfaz94 on Sept 18, 2020 7:14:05 GMT -5
Happy Halloween, Scooby-Doo is more than worth the hype. Best Scooby movie since Frankencreepy. Can Maxwell Atoms just write all of these from now on? A Few Notes: This movie felt like it combined the best elements of Be Cool and Mystery Incorporated. Daphne was almost exactly like her Be Cool characterization. This movie was so action packed without being brainless like Scoob. Just a superior movie all around. Velma is awesome in this and her arc retroactively justifies her characterization in the previous films (though I still don't think they needed to drag Zombie Island through the mud to accomplish this) The Red Herring cameo is cool. A perfect easter egg. I personally would have preferred the villain be a classic Scooby villain instead of one invented for the movie. But it still works. Scarecrow was well-integrated into the plot to the point that you forget he's a Batman character. The final gag was so Billy & Mandy Phyllis Diller is canon? Boy, does that raise further questions about the gang's age I'm glad someone else noticed Daphne's personality resembling her "Be Cool" persona! That was something I wasn't expecting, but I found it to be a fun addition. I'm glad Velma was redeemed in this film after what "Return to Zombie Island" did to her character. I really enjoyed her interactions with Dr. Jonathan Crane and thought that she was very level-headed and likeable throughout. Hmm, the Phyllis Diller part definitely raises questions - especially as this film was more modern than I've ever seen in the franchise, with the uses of apps and such as major plot points. I'll take it as just a fun nod and try not to think about it too much haha.
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Post by barneynedward on Sept 18, 2020 10:36:26 GMT -5
Happy Halloween, Scooby-Doo is more than worth the hype. Best Scooby movie since Frankencreepy. Can Maxwell Atoms just write all of these from now on? A Few Notes: This movie felt like it combined the best elements of Be Cool and Mystery Incorporated. Daphne was almost exactly like her Be Cool characterization. This movie was so action packed without being brainless like Scoob. Just a superior movie all around. Velma is awesome in this and her arc retroactively justifies her characterization in the previous films (though I still don't think they needed to drag Zombie Island through the mud to accomplish this) The Red Herring cameo is cool. A perfect easter egg. I personally would have preferred the villain be a classic Scooby villain instead of one invented for the movie. But it still works. Scarecrow was well-integrated into the plot to the point that you forget he's a Batman character. The final gag was so Billy & Mandy Phyllis Diller is canon? Boy, does that raise further questions about the gang's age the fictionalized version of Phyllis Diller the gang met was probably somewhat younger than her real life counterpart and is still alive or died fairly recently in the Scooby canon. Kind of like how Jerry Seinfeld's character on Seinfeld was about 10 years ago younger than Seinfeld actually was the time.
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Post by vakanai on Sept 21, 2020 18:58:05 GMT -5
Daphne wasn't exactly her Be Cool self. More like a somewhat toned down version of that. Which is good, she's quirky and unique without going too far for those of us who found her grating in Be Cool (beard, puppets...). This version straddled the line to perfection and was greatly enjoyable.
I don't know if it justifies Velma's over the top skepticism before. She didn't learn that the paranormal is real, just that it's okay to be scared. But it doesn't matter, she came across much better here than she has for a bit. An improvement all around and I loved her scenes with Crane. Possible future archnemesis?
Bill Nye worked better than expected, love Elvira, and Scarecrow was great. Batman hasn't used him as well for a while. Love how he referenced Batman without actually name dropping him.
And that so much of the movie took place on the road in a car chase was great and unique.
All in all, one of the best movies to date.
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Post by scoobylover on Sept 22, 2020 16:34:15 GMT -5
That was the most wtf movie of the whole DTV series. Literally the wildest Scooby property, which was a good addiction to the franchise. Although, I wouldn't necessarily want any more movies like this. Like it was quite enjoyable and nothing was expected but you can tell, from Curse of the 13th ghost on they are taking a whole new route, whole new storyline. I don't find the Courage crossover that far from reality anymore since they're going crazy with Scooby. You can tell they really want to spice things up whatever that means for them. But about the film, loved the gang interactions in here, the dynamics were crazy and fun, especially when they were driving away from the pumpkins. There was a bit of evertyhting in a positive way. I do miss a lot the animation and the mature tones from Abracadabra til, let's say Stage Fright, but I appreciate the effort of giving us something new. Daphne and Elvira were a great duo, I think Daph would have really been overpowering if she stayed with the rest of the gang, thank god they gave her another quirky character to interact with. Velma amazed me in this and how she developped. Especially her convo with the Scarecrow was so DC superhero meets villain vibe. Elvira and Nye were actually quite fun addiction but Mike was my favorite. His jokes never got old. I laughed out loud a lot for this one, especially the scene where Velma is on the jetpack seat and Shaggy was riding the pumpkins and they knocked on the truck's doors. That was hilarious. I don't know if they're gonna continue the storyline since they have a cliffhanger but I really hope not and that we go back to actual mysteries at a certain point cuz Im starting to miss them. I'm still hoping for a gritty, dark, pg13 Scooby Apocalypse cartoon transposition. In that case I'll accept the craziness. Overall, very fun movie, would rewatch and also props for all the reference and easter eggs in and outside the Scoobyverse. And the movie ending out being kind of an Elvira show episode.
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Post by Doo on Sept 23, 2020 12:14:20 GMT -5
So I really loved this film! I'm super glad I decided to just pick up a DVD copy while I was at the store today, and cancel the pre-order which I think I had mentioned in one of the comment sections that I was originally going to wait for. I think this is the best Scooby film we've gotten in years, and was a breath of fresh air after Curse of the 13th Ghost and Return to Zombie Island.
The mystery felt very cinematic to me, and I enjoyed the inclusion of The Scarecrow much more than I thought I would. Even though he wasn't a main villain, he provided a great setup for introducing the living pumpkins. Surprisingly, I really enjoyed that so much of the movie was the pumpkins pursuing the gang. I think it could have been done in a very boring way, but the constant presence of the pumpkins made it creepier!
I loved all the old references to previous Scooby and Hanna-Barbera material as well. Between a Frankenstein Jr. float, a kid dressed as Blue Falcon, a Phyllis Diller mention, a Fred Flintstone costume, RED HERRING(!), and the Ghost of the Three Stooges, it really felt like a lot of love was put into this film. Am I the only one who would have liked to see the ghosts of the Three Stooges mystery though? I feel like that would have been really cool haha.
I'm not sure if this was just my Scooby-oriented brain creating references that weren't there, but did those two vampire statues when Shaggy and Scooby went in the corn maze look like Dracula from "A Halloween Hassle at Dracula's Castle" to anyone else? It sure did to me.
We also got a reference to Fred's middle name, Herman, which is the first time it's been mentioned 15 years since Aloha, Scooby-Doo! from 2005!
One thing I really did not like in this film was the use of 60s bubblegum pop music during the chase scenes. I know they're trying to beckon back to Where Are You with that, and they did it in Return to Zombie Island too, but it just seemed out of place to me and I hope it doesn't happen again.
The one other big thing in this film is Daphne's personality is much more quirky and reminiscent of her Be Cool, Scooby-Doo! personality. I thought it was interesting Daphne wanted to become Elvira too, as Elvira kinda seems more gothy than "in-fashion" to me...so this version of Daphne wants to be a goth I guess? I'm here for it.
Speaking of Elvira, I thought her and Bill Nye fit in really well. They did not seem forced at all as guest stars, and I thought both of them definitely had roles to play in this film.
I also was shocked that the sheriff was the villain! That was such a cool twist and I loved it!
Overall, this film was an amazing Halloween movie that I will definitely be watching every year from now on around this time of year. This film is like SDMI and BCSD had a baby, and it's amazing. It's got a much darker tone that more recent films/series, but it also is pretty silly in some parts. Was this better than Goblin King? I love Goblin King so much, so it would be very hard to top that film. I think this comes close, but it's good in a different way from Goblin King. Goblin King is this very idealistic, magical film to me whereas this one is darker but also very cinematic in quality. I would highly recommend this film!
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Post by mattpricetime on Sept 24, 2020 7:42:29 GMT -5
I felt very mixed on this movie. Some parts I really found really awesome. Other parts just weren't for me. It felt like they were trying to mix too many parts of Scooby's history into a formula that just isn't what I prefer. But then again I probably would feel the way on any that isn't my own, so what the hey.
Though I second my thought said years ago, Maxwell Atoms is a good choice for supernatural style Scooby and other HB properties. His Shaggy and Scooby writing is wonderful.
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Post by creeper1 on Sept 27, 2020 20:32:51 GMT -5
How did they solve the Velma problem?
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Post by Doo on Sept 27, 2020 20:36:18 GMT -5
How did they solve the Velma problem? The issue of her being a skeptic you mean? They got into her "mind palace" (a place in her mind) and realized that the root of her skepticism was that she feared the possibility of real monsters. She realized at the end of the movie it was okay to be scared.
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Post by creeper1 on Sept 27, 2020 20:44:51 GMT -5
How did they solve the Velma problem? The issue of her being a skeptic you mean? They got into her "mind palace" (a place in her mind) and realized that the root of her skepticism was that she feared the possibility of real monsters. She realized at the end of the movie it was okay to be scared. I hope this development sticks.
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Post by Doo on Sept 27, 2020 20:45:34 GMT -5
The issue of her being a skeptic you mean? They got into her "mind palace" (a place in her mind) and realized that the root of her skepticism was that she feared the possibility of real monsters. She realized at the end of the movie it was okay to be scared. I hope this development sticks. I hope so too! I agree the characterization of Velma in the prior two films was annoying.
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Post by creeper1 on Sept 27, 2020 20:49:44 GMT -5
I hope this development sticks. I hope so too! I agree the characterization of Velma in the prior two films was annoying. I'd love to see B.J. Ward return as Velma one last time.
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Post by scoobylover on Oct 6, 2020 16:19:33 GMT -5
I just saw a Trini Lee reference as well, the Crystal Cove singer.
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Post by snesgamer83 on Oct 27, 2020 5:28:49 GMT -5
I hope this development sticks. I hope so too! I agree the characterization of Velma in the prior two films was annoying. Ugh, they ruined some of the most-anticipated Scooby sequels just so they could have Velma be right 2 more times and the supernatural elements of the two movies in question removed.
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Post by snesgamer83 on Oct 29, 2020 22:28:56 GMT -5
So anyway spoiler-ish mini-review: I felt it started pretty slow, but I enjoyed the mystery aspect of it (more complex than some other movies or individual eps have been lately). I also really enjoyed the creative way they used Scarecrow: not a mention of Batman, plus they managed to use him in a way where he (as a villain) was actually a supporting character! Also - some fans wanted "dark" Scooby-Doo? This is a step in the right direction - several of Fred's traps in this movie would've proven fatal if used on an actual human!
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