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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Sept 5, 2020 8:28:42 GMT -5
Bill Nye is an excellent choice. It is absolutely terrifying that anyone thinks that man knows a thing about science. Why's that exactly? I have heard of Bill Nye but he's not know in the UK. He has a degree in engineering and not any actual scientific field. The main reason people think of him as "the science guy" is because he played one on a children's show. To his credit, he seems like he's done a lot of research in actual science to live up to his name since then. I don't believe in college degrees being representative of someone's worth but it is awkward how much he's treated as an ambassador of science. He's been an advocate against climate change for the past couple decades but appeared in oil industry propaganda for Epcot in the 90s. I find it interesting that this movie depicts him as an inventor which is closer to his actual engineering field. |
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Post by russm on Sept 5, 2020 10:26:14 GMT -5
Why's that exactly? I have heard of Bill Nye but he's not know in the UK. He has a degree in engineering and not any actual scientific field. The main reason people think of him as "the science guy" is because he played one on a children's show. To his credit, he seems like he's done a lot of research in actual science to live up to his name since then. I don't believe in college degrees being representative of someone's worth but it is awkward how much he's treated as an ambassador of science. He's been an advocate against climate change for the past couple decades but appeared in oil industry propaganda for Epcot in the 90s. I find it interesting that this movie depicts him as an inventor which is closer to his actual engineering field. There is a difference between a science educator/ambassador/populariser and a real scientist. So if we take some like Brady Haran who produces YouTube channels like Numberphile and Periodic Videos, Sixty Symbols and more. He falls into the former group whereas people who appear in his videos like Martyn Poliakoff* are in the latter group - real scientists doing real science. Does Bill Nye present himself as a 'real' scientist or as a presenter and explainer of science? *Sir Martyn Poliakoff CBE CChem FRS FREng FRSC FIChemE, is a research professor in chemistry at the University of Nottingham |
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Sept 5, 2020 12:51:15 GMT -5
He has a degree in engineering and not any actual scientific field. The main reason people think of him as "the science guy" is because he played one on a children's show. To his credit, he seems like he's done a lot of research in actual science to live up to his name since then. I don't believe in college degrees being representative of someone's worth but it is awkward how much he's treated as an ambassador of science. He's been an advocate against climate change for the past couple decades but appeared in oil industry propaganda for Epcot in the 90s. I find it interesting that this movie depicts him as an inventor which is closer to his actual engineering field. There is a difference between a science educator/ambassador/populariser and a real scientist. So if we take some like Brady Haran who produces YouTube channels like Numberphile and Periodic Videos, Sixty Symbols and more. He falls into the former group whereas people who appear in his videos like Martyn Poliakoff* are in the latter group - real scientists doing real science. Does Bill Nye present himself as a 'real' scientist or as a presenter and explainer of science? *Sir Martyn Poliakoff CBE CChem FRS FREng FRSC FIChemE, is a research professor in chemistry at the University of Nottingham I don't think he claims to be a real scientist but most people don't know the difference. Stan Lee technically never claimed to be the sole creator of Marvel but he still gets a lot of grief for indirectly presenting himself that way. I don't have any ill will towards Bill Nye, just explaining why he's controversial in some circles. |
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Post by russm on Sept 5, 2020 15:05:46 GMT -5
Unfortunialty in the US science does seem to become very political (and hence polarising), even teaching science seems to have been a political issue in some areas.
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Post by Matt_the_miner_49er on Sept 5, 2020 22:49:27 GMT -5
Why's that exactly? I have heard of Bill Nye but he's not know in the UK. He has a degree in engineering and not any actual scientific field. The main reason people think of him as "the science guy" is because he played one on a children's show. To his credit, he seems like he's done a lot of research in actual science to live up to his name since then. I don't believe in college degrees being representative of someone's worth but it is awkward how much he's treated as an ambassador of science. He's been an advocate against climate change for the past couple decades but appeared in oil industry propaganda for Epcot in the 90s. I find it interesting that this movie depicts him as an inventor which is closer to his actual engineering field. This, but it's really neither here nor there. I think I'll really like this one, seems like an updated Witch's Ghost in a way. |
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Post by russm on Sept 6, 2020 6:30:35 GMT -5
He has a degree in engineering and not any actual scientific field. The main reason people think of him as "the science guy" is because he played one on a children's show. To his credit, he seems like he's done a lot of research in actual science to live up to his name since then. I don't believe in college degrees being representative of someone's worth but it is awkward how much he's treated as an ambassador of science. He's been an advocate against climate change for the past couple decades but appeared in oil industry propaganda for Epcot in the 90s. I find it interesting that this movie depicts him as an inventor which is closer to his actual engineering field. This, but it's really neither here nor there. I think I'll really like this one, seems like an updated Witch's Ghost in a way. Well Mythbuster's Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman are also considered ambassadors of STEM subjects and neither of them are scientists. It's the method, not if you still have your own eyebrows that counts :-) |
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Post by Matt_the_miner_49er on Sept 6, 2020 7:26:14 GMT -5
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Well Mythbuster's Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman are also considered ambassadors of STEM subjects and neither of them are scientists. It's the method, not if you still have your own eyebrows that counts :-)
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You said it well, they've been ambassadors, good representatives of the fields and the information/methods. Nye never progressed past liquid nitrogen ice cream. Now he wants the world to listen to him on climate change and coronavirus. Once more, still hasn't progressed past parlor tricks.
His "mask experiment" was little more than a lesson in directional airflow. His profane rantings about climate change and how "deniers" should be put in jail is not the language of a learned man but of a tyrannical lunatic. Anyone who says science is settled is not worthy of being called a scientist. If science is ever settled, then the Earth is still flat and the sun revolves around us
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Post by mattpricetime on Sept 13, 2020 3:46:32 GMT -5
Before this releases, one thought that is kind of bugging me. If we're right in assuming the King Arthur movie was supposed to have come before this one, will these two have that continuity creep from the last two movies?
I know a lot of us were surprised when Return to Zombie Island had them still not having the mystery machine and the sheriff return. Pointing out that Elvira is in this one and in Return to Zombie Island kind of has me wondering.
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Post by vakanai on Sept 13, 2020 5:21:58 GMT -5
Before this releases, one thought that is kind of bugging me. If we're right in assuming the King Arthur movie was supposed to have come before this one, will these two have that continuity creep from the last two movies? I know a lot of us were surprised when Return to Zombie Island had them still not having the mystery machine and the sheriff return. Pointing out that Elvira is in this one and in Return to Zombie Island kind of has me wondering. Probably not, it's such a rare thing that I'd be surprised if they did it again so soon. Plus we're "assuming" the King Arthur movie was supposed to come before this one, when really we don't know. We could have gotten the whole "since Scoob was delayed/went straight to streaming they had to move the usual summertime DTV to make way" thing wrong. Maybe this one was supposed to be first after all. So with DTV continuity being rare, and the whole released out of order thing being just a rumor far as we know, I wouldn't worry. Worse case scenario and it is both out of order and carrying over continuity, it'll probably still be something pretty small and not that confusing. |
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Sept 13, 2020 10:24:32 GMT -5
Before this releases, one thought that is kind of bugging me. If we're right in assuming the King Arthur movie was supposed to have come before this one, will these two have that continuity creep from the last two movies? I know a lot of us were surprised when Return to Zombie Island had them still not having the mystery machine and the sheriff return. Pointing out that Elvira is in this one and in Return to Zombie Island kind of has me wondering. Someone who has seen the movie told me that the Mystery Machine is inexplicably back but there is references to Elvira's role in the previous film. I think the Mystery Machine was suppose to come back in King Arthur |
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Sept 14, 2020 6:28:55 GMT -5
My friend informed me that there is a non-speaking cameo by a character created in between The Scooby-Doo Show and What's New Scooby-Doo.
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Post by danfaz94 on Sept 18, 2020 7:07:36 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this film! I got the DVD on Monday and was a bit hesitant after how much I hated "Return to Zombie Island" - but I try to go into each Scooby-Doo film/episode with a positive attitude. In all, it was a pleasant surprise and I'll definitely rewatch it on October 31st.
Even though there are certain references to the previous films, it still stands up on its own and I'm glad they didn't keep the whole missing Mystery Machine arc going... though I suppose there's a chance that this could be answers in "King Arthur's Court" since I believe that was supposed to go first.
In terms of other Scooby Halloween movies, I'd say it's better than "Goblin King" but not as good as "Spooky Scarecrow".
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Post by barneynedward on Sept 20, 2020 0:27:07 GMT -5
My friend informed me that there is a non-speaking cameo by a character created in between The Scooby-Doo Show and What's New Scooby-Doo. I thought I saw Arlene Wilcox for a few seconds toward the beginning. |
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Post by msscoobyfreak on Sept 22, 2020 13:32:06 GMT -5
anybody who wants the link dm me
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Post by mattpricetime on Sept 24, 2020 7:49:03 GMT -5
I'm torn in this regard because there doesn't seem to have been anything missed in terms of the Sheriff story but the Mystery Machine randomly being back makes it feel like we did miss something.
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