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Post by russm on Feb 22, 2020 18:17:15 GMT -5
That alone would've been a ground-breaking premise because not only would the franchise be returning to the only show that was 100% supernatural, Velma would be the focus (having re-released the ghosts) instead of Shaggy or Scooby, and they would've brought back the two most hated characters in the franchise (Flim-Flam and Scrappy) and redeemed them, as well as continuing the trend of series-long arcs, following in the footsteps of the original 13 Ghosts and Mystery Inc. I mean, I'm not a Hollywood writer so I'm sure someone could take what I just wrote here and make it 20 times better, but you get the idea. I wouldn't have minded a full-on remake of 13 Ghosts done with a similar tone to Mystery Incorporated. Maybe take notes from Stranger Things and have it set in the 80s with a bunch of 80s references. Yeah, there are so many things they could have done rather than another watered-down version of 'same old, same old'. All the above and then... Make them a Moble Task Force in the SCP universe. Link them up with Justice League Dark and then go after the Chest of Demons A comedy episode where they ruin a perfectly good holiday looking for a mystery that isn't there Given the more connected world we have now get the Cyberchase creature come after them in the real world
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Post by elemage on Feb 23, 2020 20:33:53 GMT -5
That alone would've been a ground-breaking premise because not only would the franchise be returning to the only show that was 100% supernatural, Velma would be the focus (having re-released the ghosts) instead of Shaggy or Scooby, and they would've brought back the two most hated characters in the franchise (Flim-Flam and Scrappy) and redeemed them, as well as continuing the trend of series-long arcs, following in the footsteps of the original 13 Ghosts and Mystery Inc. I mean, I'm not a Hollywood writer so I'm sure someone could take what I just wrote here and make it 20 times better, but you get the idea. I wouldn't have minded a full-on remake of 13 Ghosts done with a similar tone to Mystery Incorporated. Maybe take notes from Stranger Things and have it set in the 80s with a bunch of 80s references. Not to mention, Velma and Freddie could get 80's redesigns to match Shaggy and Daphne lol
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Post by scoobyfan27 on Feb 23, 2020 21:33:58 GMT -5
The signal to noise ratio in the current Scooby era is not good. It's not bad it's just meh, which is even worse. There is currently nothing compelling on offer, Guess Who is just misfiring on all cylinders for me, the current movies don't hold much appeal (and I include SCOOB! in that given their current lackluster output). Nostalgia ain't what it used to be, and no, iot doesn't sell. I do have some insider info on SCOOB and I can say that the movie is much weirder than the marketing is letting on. I'm not saying anything beyond that Hello! Hope your doing well I’m interested in knowing the information, could you possibly DM me what you know?
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Post by scoobnick on Feb 24, 2020 10:09:37 GMT -5
I do have some insider info on SCOOB and I can say that the movie is much weirder than the marketing is letting on. I'm not saying anything beyond that Hello! Hope your doing well I’m interested in knowing the information, could you possibly DM me what you know? Jonathan almost certainly is under a non-disclosure agreement so he can't tell you what he knows. So don't ask.
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Feb 24, 2020 10:51:09 GMT -5
Hello! Hope your doing well I’m interested in knowing the information, could you possibly DM me what you know? Jonathan almost certainly is under a non-disclosure agreement so he can't tell you what he knows. So don't ask. I didn't work on the film myself. I've been on forums with people who have so I'm under no such agreement.
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Post by russm on Feb 24, 2020 15:48:04 GMT -5
Jonathan almost certainly is under a non-disclosure agreement so he can't tell you what he knows. So don't ask. I didn't work on the film myself. I've been on forums with people who have so I'm under no such agreement. But they are probably under NDA as well as under the ever watching gaze of WB's fleet of ACME spy-in-they-sky death ray satellites* *Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulators not included.
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Post by elemage on Feb 24, 2020 20:21:04 GMT -5
The signal to noise ratio in the current Scooby era is not good. It's not bad it's just meh, which is even worse. There is currently nothing compelling on offer, Guess Who is just misfiring on all cylinders for me, the current movies don't hold much appeal (and I include SCOOB! in that given their current lackluster output). Nostalgia ain't what it used to be, and no, iot doesn't sell. Honestly, playing Devil's Advocate and looking at the franchise for the past 5 years, I loved Be Cool. And after finding out that Season 3 was supposed to bring in the Hex Girls and Scrappy, I am INCREDIBLY sad it got canned. Guess Who is... ok. I loathe the theme song, and I loathe how they need to have the entire gang list the guest star's full list of accomplishments. Like ew, that's so tacky, unnatural and just takes you out of the moment. Especially in the Halsey episode where they do it TWICE. I didn't watch Scoobynatural, but I've heard absolutely great things about it. The LEGO trilogy (Knight Time Terror, Haunted Hollywood and Blowout Beach Bash) was charming, if a bit predictable and childish. Moon Monster Madness, Shaggy's Showdown and Gourmet Ghost were actually solid, enjoyable movies. And of course, Scooby Apocalypse was great (even if it had a lot of missed opportunities to be better). I also really enjoyed Scooby-Doo Team-Up #50 with the return of so many supporting characters. However, the past five years did also give us the Velma portrayed in Frankencreepy, Rock and Roll Mystery, Curse of the 13th Ghost and Return to Zombie Island aka "delusional Velma who needs to be slapped". So for that alone, this decade is so-so for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2020 20:26:29 GMT -5
In Frankencreepy, I'm actually fine with Velma being dismissive about the curse, but not in last year's films. It worked in Frankencreepy. None of Mystery Inc ever truly lost each other...and that includes the Mystery Machine.
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Post by elemage on Feb 24, 2020 21:47:31 GMT -5
In Frankencreepy, I'm actually fine with Velma being dismissive about the curse, but not in last year's films. It worked in Frankencreepy. None of Mystery Inc ever truly lost each other...and that includes the Mystery Machine. Her being dismissive about the curse is fine. But that movie tried to explain that the reason she's so scientific is because she wants to disprove the supernatural, which makes no sense when comparing her to classic Velma who was just simply intelligent, or revival Velma who actually went up against the supernatural and embraced its existence. This modern Velma that is dismissive of the supernatural to the point of breaking down upon discovering it's real (Goblin King, Mystery Inc., Scoobynatural, etc.) or is outright delusional in her skepticism (KISS, Curse, Return, Guess Who) is a slap in the face to the character that's been crafted for the first 40 years of the franchise.
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Post by manbearpig on Feb 25, 2020 19:34:13 GMT -5
In Frankencreepy, I'm actually fine with Velma being dismissive about the curse, but not in last year's films. It worked in Frankencreepy. None of Mystery Inc ever truly lost each other...and that includes the Mystery Machine. Her being dismissive about the curse is fine. But that movie tried to explain that the reason she's so scientific is because she wants to disprove the supernatural, which makes no sense when comparing her to classic Velma who was just simply intelligent, or revival Velma who actually went up against the supernatural and embraced its existence. This modern Velma that is dismissive of the supernatural to the point of breaking down upon discovering it's real (Goblin King, Mystery Inc., Scoobynatural, etc.) or is outright delusional in her skepticism (KISS, Curse, Return, Guess Who) is a slap in the face to the character that's been crafted for the first 40 years of the franchise. In my opinion, Velma's reaction to the existence of the supernatural in SDMI was quite realistic for a character whose worldview turns out to be completely wrong. First denial, then breakdown, accepting the new situation, understanding and adapting to it in the end. In comparison, Zombie Island Velma took it too easy, I think. As for the Scooby Doo fandom, I think that Scooby Doo is a typical medium-size, long-established fandom. It has its ups and downs. Far from being dead, but not too active. That's because despite of its variety, the Scooby Doo universe is not big, comparing to the biggest of fandoms like Star Wars, Marvel, Harry Potter etc. It's based on just a bunch of teenagers solving Mysteries with their dog. That concept can be too plain for most of the potential fans. The WB's "children-only franchise" policy only narrows the fanbase. Also running mostly on nostalgia won't help either. Only revolutionary moves would help Scooby, but WB seems to be too lazy and out of ideas to be able to create something sensible. Maybe SCOOB! will change that. I would return to this thread after its release.
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Feb 25, 2020 19:46:18 GMT -5
I just want to add that I have no problem with Scooby franchise being "kids only" and I would actually prefer it stay that way. I don't need to see The Killing Joke but for Scooby or anything like that.
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Post by barneynedward on Mar 2, 2020 19:08:28 GMT -5
I didn't work on the film myself. I've been on forums with people who have so I'm under no such agreement. But they are probably under NDA as well as under the ever watching gaze of WB's fleet of ACME spy-in-they-sky death ray satellites* *Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulators not included. If those satellites are made by ACME, Then the production crew members violating the NDAs aren't in that much danger. Just try to imagine how high of a product recall rate ACME must have. almost 100% of the products they sell are guaranteed to cause serious injury, utter humiliation or even gruesome death to the users.
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Post by vakanai on Mar 9, 2020 22:00:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded a full-on remake of 13 Ghosts done with a similar tone to Mystery Incorporated. Maybe take notes from Stranger Things and have it set in the 80s with a bunch of 80s references. Yeah, there are so many things they could have done rather than another watered-down version of 'same old, same old'. All the above and then... Make them a Moble Task Force in the SCP universe. Link them up with Justice League Dark and then go after the Chest of Demons A comedy episode where they ruin a perfectly good holiday looking for a mystery that isn't there Given the more connected world we have now get the Cyberchase creature come after them in the real world What's the SCP universe?
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Post by vakanai on Mar 9, 2020 22:09:48 GMT -5
I just want to add that I have no problem with Scooby franchise being "kids only" and I would actually prefer it stay that way. I don't need to see The Killing Joke but for Scooby or anything like that. I prefer family friendly to kids only - nothing you can't show your kids/nephews/nieces/grandkids or whoever, but not afraid to tackle larger issues on occasion that mostly the parent/aunt/uncle/grandparent is going to appreciate.
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Post by russm on Mar 10, 2020 3:08:27 GMT -5
The SCP Foundation is a collaborative fiction project set in a parallel earth. Like MiB but they deal with the occult and mysterious. They are also a lot more ruthless than MiB. Mobile Task Forces are specialist teams, the 'boots in the ground', who deal with/contain/liquidate anomalies www.scp-wiki.net/about-the-scp-foundation
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