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Post by ruben MG on Jun 20, 2019 4:03:34 GMT -5
hello some time ago I found two storyboards of the movie "return to zombie island" the premiere of the trailer is falling and so to celebrate it I wanted to share it with you.It looks good, you can see the cat creatures come back. and that pendant in the shape of a cat that Simon had, opened in the moon clock the door of the pirate treasure morgan that something has to do with the curse.Someone helps the gang what I do not like is that apparently they will not have their original clothes from that movie and i see that they are teenagers again breaking the timeline.in general it looks pretty good although I am very eskeptical after the 13 ghost. and I hope that these creatures are not people in disguise, or that they demonstrate that in the first movie they were deceived into believing that they were zombies and real cat creatures.The two rules that wb has these days is " is nothing truly supernatural and not have a tone so dark, not scare the children".that can work in any normal movie but not in this one that the fans love, for having those two things that they will surely want to take away. I do not expect it great but hopefully it's good. that of 13 ghosts was a very hard blow for me and I have no hope.Enjoy it and thanks for reading me . ibb.co/s2JtJZf ibb.co/Rb9N7tQ
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Post by scubidu on Jun 20, 2019 9:53:49 GMT -5
I hope we got a trailer soon. I have to say I'm not impressed by these storyboards, I'm kinda disappointed, actually.
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Post by manbearpig on Jun 20, 2019 19:16:51 GMT -5
The fact that the gang has SDWAY outfits instead of those from Zombie Island is disappointing, but not surprising. I have really low expectations about this movie, as it appears that it is going to be pretty similar to The Curse of the 13th Ghost. Another missed opportunity. But maybe they'll pleasantly surprise me...
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Post by mattpricetime on Jun 20, 2019 22:00:43 GMT -5
Hmm do we think the second one is a flashback or are our cat creatures are returning in this one?
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Jun 20, 2019 22:05:54 GMT -5
Maybe the buried treasure belongs to that pirate guy?
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Post by elemage on Jun 21, 2019 23:31:36 GMT -5
So, judging by the storyboards:
- The gang are driving somewhere when the Mystery Machine is attacked after stopping at a felled tree in the road. Some random dude informs them that the scratches look like that of cats, which of course freaks the gang out.
- Then we see three cat creatures who do not resemble Simone, Lena, or Jacques (though the long-haired one comes the closest, looking like Simone). They find the ceremonial chamber on Moonscar Island, as well as the amulet Simone wore. They then use the amulet to find Morgan Moonscar's treasure?
A few things here that already rub me the wrong way.
1) The gang are in their standard outfits. If you do try to shove everything that's not explicitly an alternate timeline (Mystery Incorporated, Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get A Clue, Be Cool Scooby Doo, Scooby Apocalypse, etc.) together into one cohesive narrative, then the gang do eventually drop their Zombie Island era outfits for their classic outfits (Legend of the Vampire) only to move on to their What's New outfits (The Vampire Strikes Back), and in turn drop those for the classic outfits once more (Rock and Roll Mystery), despite how creepy it is for someone to be nearing 30 wearing the same clothes they've been wearing since at least 14 years old (judging by the Behind The Mystery vignettes from the 90's).
Instead of this being good attention to continuity, I'm sure this instead means that the gang are once again going to be 17 going on 18 like in Curse of the 13th Ghost, despite Zombie Island showing Velma as a business owner, and Fred and Daphne working together in journalism. Thus, pretty into legal adulthood. Immediately off to a bad start, because with a direct sequel like this, you NEED continuity or it does not work. I'll be darned if Speed Demon is the most cohesive sequel in the Scooby canon. (And yes, it currently is the most continuity dependent sequel, compared to Monsters Unleashed or Curse of the Lake Monster, which have no ties to their predecessors aside from carrying over the same main cast.)
2) The cat creatures aren't ugly enough. The original movie came out when I was 4 years old. The designs for the zombies and ESPECIALLY the cat creatures scarred me so goshdarn bad (IDK what the rules are on swearing here, so I'm just gonna censor myself to be safe), that at 25 years old I have yet to sit down and watch the movie the whole way through again. (I've maybe seen it the whole way through once or twice when it came out, and to this day I still can't do zombies.) These cat creatures? They look like they came out of the 80's cartoons. AKA not even remotely scary, and borderline cuddly. Another thing you need for a direct sequel like this to work is consistency in TONE.
3) How are the cat creatures not only able to find Simone's amulet, but also Moonscar's treasure? Nothing in the original movie suggests that Simone is part of a larger network of cat creatures across the world. Quite the opposite, her island is so incredibly isolated that it took over 200 years for the government to notice the disappearances (a YouTuber did the math on the body counts in the movie and through that dated Simone and Lena's origin flashbacks to about 1770, so 208 years before the events of the movie). Additionally, her amulet was buried in the pile of her ashes, in her ceremonial chamber, which was under her house. How would anyone who didn't know her think to look there? And then, Moonscar's treasure had nothing to do with the cat creatures. Simone and Lena didn't know where it was buried, none of the settlers did. They were just killed in case they had seen where it was buried. So the cat amulet leading the cat creatures to the treasure is also not very logical.
Maybe I'm still salty and bitter about 13th Ghost, but I have little to no hope for this sequel. I don't even LIKE Zombie Island and I still want to see it done justice. Especially after they've been planting easter eggs in the movies since Gourmet Ghost. I hope they prove me wrong.
Or at least have Velma be skeptical as all heck like in KISS and 13th Ghost... And then have her mauled off-screen. I want skeptical Velma to go away.
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Post by Doo on Jun 22, 2019 0:15:20 GMT -5
I don't even LIKE Zombie Island and I still want to see it done justice. What don't you like about Zombie Island? No judgement, I'm just honestly curious as I've never met a Scooby fan who dislikes that film.
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Post by elemage on Jun 22, 2019 0:45:54 GMT -5
I don't even LIKE Zombie Island and I still want to see it done justice. What don't you like about Zombie Island? No judgement, I'm just honestly curious as I've never met a Scooby fan who dislikes that film. Well, like I said earlier in the post, I haven't seen it in 20 years because it was just so... DARK. If I had seen it for the first time as an adult, I'd have loved it. That's what happened with Camp Scare, which isn't as dark as Zombie Island, but definitely meant to be more edgy than your typical Scooby movie. But seeing it for the first time when I was 4? God, I was horrified of it. I gave away my copy as soon as I was able to. Witch's Ghost was a lot more manageable for Kid Me, though. Cyber Chase is my favorite of the original 4 DTVs TBH. Though Alien Invaders holds a special place in my heart, because of Crystal and Amber.
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Post by Doo on Jun 22, 2019 10:03:23 GMT -5
What don't you like about Zombie Island? No judgement, I'm just honestly curious as I've never met a Scooby fan who dislikes that film. Well, like I said earlier in the post, I haven't seen it in 20 years because it was just so... DARK. If I had seen it for the first time as an adult, I'd have loved it. That's what happened with Camp Scare, which isn't as dark as Zombie Island, but definitely meant to be more edgy than your typical Scooby movie. But seeing it for the first time when I was 4? God, I was horrified of it. I gave away my copy as soon as I was able to. Witch's Ghost was a lot more manageable for Kid Me, though. Cyber Chase is my favorite of the original 4 DTVs TBH. Though Alien Invaders holds a special place in my heart, because of Crystal and Amber. Interesting. I can totally get how seeing something as a kid can affect your perception as an adult. I don't really like "The Backstage Rage" from Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? very much, because as a kid I was more into the monster/ghost type villains and the Puppet Master didn't really fit that standard for me. As an adult, I can see how the concept is actually pretty terrifying. I probably would have loved it if I saw it for the first time as an adult.
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Post by elemage on Jun 22, 2019 10:39:26 GMT -5
Well, like I said earlier in the post, I haven't seen it in 20 years because it was just so... DARK. If I had seen it for the first time as an adult, I'd have loved it. That's what happened with Camp Scare, which isn't as dark as Zombie Island, but definitely meant to be more edgy than your typical Scooby movie. But seeing it for the first time when I was 4? God, I was horrified of it. I gave away my copy as soon as I was able to. Witch's Ghost was a lot more manageable for Kid Me, though. Cyber Chase is my favorite of the original 4 DTVs TBH. Though Alien Invaders holds a special place in my heart, because of Crystal and Amber. Interesting. I can totally get how seeing something as a kid can affect your perception as an adult. I don't really like "The Backstage Rage" from Scooby-Doo, Where Are You? very much, because as a kid I was more into the monster/ghost type villains and the Puppet Master didn't really fit that standard for me. As an adult, I can see how the concept is actually pretty terrifying. I probably would have loved it if I saw it for the first time as an adult. Yeah, kinda like that. However, the main takeaway is that even though I don't like Zombie Island, I respect that so many people adore it, and the fact that these 2 storyboards already bring up multiple conflicts with the original movie is honestly concerning. Zombie Island deserves a proper sequel.
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Post by ruben MG on Jun 22, 2019 20:49:22 GMT -5
So, judging by the storyboards: - The gang are driving somewhere when the Mystery Machine is attacked after stopping at a felled tree in the road. Some random dude informs them that the scratches look like that of cats, which of course freaks the gang out. - Then we see three cat creatures who do not resemble Simone, Lena, or Jacques (though the long-haired one comes the closest, looking like Simone). They find the ceremonial chamber on Moonscar Island, as well as the amulet Simone wore. They then use the amulet to find Morgan Moonscar's treasure? A few things here that already rub me the wrong way. 1) The gang are in their standard outfits. If you do try to shove everything that's not explicitly an alternate timeline (Mystery Incorporated, Shaggy and Scooby-Doo Get A Clue, Be Cool Scooby Doo, Scooby Apocalypse, etc.) together into one cohesive narrative, then the gang do eventually drop their Zombie Island era outfits for their classic outfits (Legend of the Vampire) only to move on to their What's New outfits (The Vampire Strikes Back), and in turn drop those for the classic outfits once more (Rock and Roll Mystery), despite how creepy it is for someone to be nearing 30 wearing the same clothes they've been wearing since at least 14 years old (judging by the Behind The Mystery vignettes from the 90's). Instead of this being good attention to continuity, I'm sure this instead means that the gang are once again going to be 17 going on 18 like in Curse of the 13th Ghost, despite Zombie Island showing Velma as a business owner, and Fred and Daphne working together in journalism. Thus, pretty into legal adulthood. Immediately off to a bad start, because with a direct sequel like this, you NEED continuity or it does not work. I'll be darned if Speed Demon is the most cohesive sequel in the Scooby canon. (And yes, it currently is the most continuity dependent sequel, compared to Monsters Unleashed or Curse of the Lake Monster, which have no ties to their predecessors aside from carrying over the same main cast.) 2) The cat creatures aren't ugly enough. The original movie came out when I was 4 years old. The designs for the zombies and ESPECIALLY the cat creatures scarred me so goshdarn bad (IDK what the rules are on swearing here, so I'm just gonna censor myself to be safe), that at 25 years old I have yet to sit down and watch the movie the whole way through again. (I've maybe seen it the whole way through once or twice when it came out, and to this day I still can't do zombies.) These cat creatures? They look like they came out of the 80's cartoons. AKA not even remotely scary, and borderline cuddly. Another thing you need for a direct sequel like this to work is consistency in TONE. 3) How are the cat creatures not only able to find Simone's amulet, but also Moonscar's treasure? Nothing in the original movie suggests that Simone is part of a larger network of cat creatures across the world. Quite the opposite, her island is so incredibly isolated that it took over 200 years for the government to notice the disappearances (a YouTuber did the math on the body counts in the movie and through that dated Simone and Lena's origin flashbacks to about 1770, so 208 years before the events of the movie). Additionally, her amulet was buried in the pile of her ashes, in her ceremonial chamber, which was under her house. How would anyone who didn't know her think to look there? And then, Moonscar's treasure had nothing to do with the cat creatures. Simone and Lena didn't know where it was buried, none of the settlers did. They were just killed in case they had seen where it was buried. So the cat amulet leading the cat creatures to the treasure is also not very logical. Maybe I'm still salty and bitter about 13th Ghost, but I have little to no hope for this sequel. I don't even LIKE Zombie Island and I still want to see it done justice. Especially after they've been planting easter eggs in the movies since Gourmet Ghost. I hope they prove me wrong. Or at least have Velma be skeptical as all heck like in KISS and 13th Ghost... And then have her mauled off-screen. I want skeptical Velma to go away. I must correct you in something Simon and lena knew where the treasure was because they killed the pirates just before they buried it. ibb.co/tCNs67h
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Post by elemage on Jun 22, 2019 20:53:47 GMT -5
I must correct you in something Simon and lena knew where the treasure was because they killed the pirates just before they buried it. ibb.co/tCNs67hOh... My mistake. Like I said, I haven't watched the movie in 20 years. I vaguely remembered that Moonscar buried the treasure, forced all the settlers into gator-infested waters (which in real life would not have killed them all. The gators would've probably taken down one person each to save them for food, as gators bury their prey underwater and feast on them slowly, leaving plenty of them a chance to head in the opposite direction of the pirates.), and then Simone and Lena killed the pirates just as they were going to leave the island.
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Post by ruben MG on Jun 28, 2019 9:45:15 GMT -5
synopsis according to amazon France: Seeking to leave behind his research career, the Scooby-doo team is leaving for a trip with all expenses paid on a mysterious, but strangely familiar, tropical island. However, your trip will take a new turn as soon as you meet the zombies that populate the island. ibb.co/M88WGQQ
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Post by scubidu on Jun 28, 2019 10:17:44 GMT -5
synopsis according to amazon France: Seeking to leave behind his research career, the Scooby-doo team is leaving for a trip with all expenses paid on a mysterious, but strangely familiar, tropical island. However, your trip will take a new turn as soon as you meet the zombies that populate the island. ibb.co/M88WGQQ Sounds like a reboot, aside from the "strangely familiar" note.
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Post by Matt_the_miner_49er on Jun 30, 2019 11:48:13 GMT -5
Plot: Snakebite Scruggs is found dead in the bayou. Being that the are the last people to see him alive, the police department want to speak to the gang. They are brought back to "Nawlins" (that's Louisiana talk for New Orleans), to be questioned. While there they encounter Beau, who is acting strange. They begin to suspect Beau and set out to investigate. In the end, the real villain? Big Mona...unmasked to reveal Mojo.
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