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Post by Jinkies on May 31, 2014 20:46:59 GMT -5
This is shown in SD;MI when Velma tries to change Shaggy quite a lot. Ex: She gets him to try out new jeans instead of his trademark baggy brown pants. She opts for a striped purple pair of skinny jeans (I think they were trying for skinny jeans, but I could be wrong) that he has major difficulty walking in. Wasn't this after she'd asked advice from Daphne who told her that boys liked being told what to do? I think so. Well from that point of view , I may have possibly viewed it differently than I did.
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Post by barneynedward on Jan 28, 2017 22:55:23 GMT -5
In the main continuity they go together pretty well. It seems like the DC comics are canon and in early issues a romantic relationship between them was hinted at. In the first two seasons we get scenes that hint at a relationship too. They typically have a healthier relationship in stand continuity. Velma only acts like Shaggy doesn't have anything useful to say when his theories are really ridiculous. Also on rare occasion Shaggy will get jealous when Velma shows interest in another guy.
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Post by scoobnick on Jan 29, 2017 12:26:25 GMT -5
no. Mystery Inc ruined any notion of Shelma for me.
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Post by barneynedward on Feb 4, 2017 22:52:17 GMT -5
I support Main Continuity Shelma. Mystery Inc is better off not mentioned.
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Post by scoobnick on Feb 4, 2017 23:19:57 GMT -5
well what counts as Main continuity? theres been lots of different series and shows, after all.
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Post by barneynedward on Feb 5, 2017 9:57:57 GMT -5
Where are you - Reluctant Werewolf and What's New and the DTVs.
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Feb 5, 2017 16:56:36 GMT -5
I don't believe any of the spin-offs or DTVs share any continuity in my opinion despite any rebooted references. 13 Ghosts seems too much of a reboot in my views to be in the main timeline. In my universe of cartoons I use Shaphne. The modern shows and DTVs ruined any form of Shelma/Fraphne. But if there is a main timeline I would just say Where Are You?, What's New, Pup and the DTVs (2003 onward).
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Post by barneynedward on Feb 5, 2017 17:06:26 GMT -5
I don't believe any of the spin-offs or DTVs share any continuity in my opinion despite any rebooted references. 13 Ghosts seems too much of a reboot in my views to be in the main timeline. In my universe of cartoons I use Shaphne. The modern shows and DTVs ruined any form of Shelma/Fraphne. But if there is a main timeline I would just say Where Are You?, What's New, Pup and the DTVs (2003 onward). According to Scoobypedia, I'm right, except they include Pup. I trust them for almost everything Scooby. So Shaggy and Daphne clearly broke up between the aftermath of 13 Ghosts and Meets the Boo Brothers. At which point Daphne reconnected with Fred and got her own TV documentary series while Shaggy and Scooby had adventures with Scrappy. Shaggy Started dating Googie and by Zombie Island had broken up with her.
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Feb 5, 2017 22:41:36 GMT -5
I don't believe any of the spin-offs or DTVs share any continuity in my opinion despite any rebooted references. 13 Ghosts seems too much of a reboot in my views to be in the main timeline. In my universe of cartoons I use Shaphne. The modern shows and DTVs ruined any form of Shelma/Fraphne. But if there is a main timeline I would just say Where Are You?, What's New, Pup and the DTVs (2003 onward). According to Scoobypedia, I'm right, except they include Pup. I trust them for almost everything Scooby. So Shaggy and Daphne clearly broke up between the aftermath of 13 Ghosts and Meets the Boo Brothers. At which point Daphne reconnected with Fred and got her own TV documentary series while Shaggy and Scooby had adventures with Scrappy. Shaggy Started dating Googie and by Zombie Island had broken up with her. Scoobypedia is like Wikipedia. Anyone can edit and add stuff. I prefer going by multiple timelines. Plus it wouldn't make sense if Daphne was smart in the mid 1980's but returned to a damsel in distress in the late 1990's onwards on Scoobypedia's timeline. As for Googie, some fans say Boo Brothers/Ghoul School/Reluctant Werewolf are set before Daphne returned in the 1980's despite Shaggy's red shirt and the absents of the mystery machine.
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Post by Toki on Feb 22, 2017 11:26:41 GMT -5
Shelma... To me as a writer is hard and easy at the same time.
If I go with default Shaggy and Default Velma... (My default is like 90% of things until stopping before GaC. And occational movies that are good between Get a clue, and modern day. So SDWAY till WNSD, and movies.) Then I have a hard time seeing it working. But to argue against that, that is just going with the surface versions of them that the writers present. Because of the flow of the show, and emphasis of Shaggy being the running, eating machine that he is.
But as a writer, and focusing a lot on when the gang isn't on a mystery. I then have the chance to sit down and figure out who the man and woman behind why Shaggy and Velma are the way they are, to then find fun character developement aspects to work with and make fun and interesting stories with. Making who Shaggy is, when he isn't running all the time, or eating. The loveable, goofy laid back beatnik everyone knows and loves. And then take who Velma would be between Mysteries... and well there is some fun possibilities.
(Admittedly, I have another advantage as a writer, making them adults so they can be a bit more mature, and have grown after everything that has happened to them)
So my Shaggy is the kind of guy who puts his friends in front of his own needs. And thinks about them constantly. If they are happy, sad or things like that. And if there is a problem, he wants to fix it. In his own, Shaggy way. Like he's the kind of person that would drag someone out of the house, because they needed that breath of fresh air, ot steal the gang to go do something fun, after a long and hard mystery.
Velma, well... she probably often needs those sorts of "Shaggy interventions" holing herself in her room to work on projects, or the like. So it makes for good interactions.
My biggest concern for the pairing is longevity. I have a hard time seeing them be a couple for a long time. I just think Velma needs someone to be a bit more stubborn against her own bull headedness, and get in to where she kinda hides and reserves herself because she is scared about certain things (coughBencough cough) I don't know if Shaggy would be able to quite pry past all of her defenses, since he's more laid back and not a fan on conflict. So maybe they would work, but I don't see Velma being the best person she could be, without someone being able to make her open up and face certain things, and Shaggy as I see him, isn't that guy. Though, well if he really fell for her, he might be able to be written into becoming that guy. But well, I don't default ship the pairing on a serious and dedicated way. (I have my preferences, but write all pairings for my readers to enjoy)
*steps down off her applebox*
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Post by snesgamer on May 4, 2017 18:54:36 GMT -5
I voted Other. While not entirely dismissive of Shelma, I much prefer the "alternative" pairings (Frelma and Shaphne) a lot better.
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Post by barneynedward on May 11, 2017 18:41:40 GMT -5
Depends on the continuity. though Mystery inc possibly could have fast forwarded to a kid friendly three way romance between Velma Shaggy and Hot Dog Water. Main continuity's Shaggy and Velma are very compatible. Here while Velma can be pushy, Shaggy is not afraid to put his foot down. Live action parody verse is hard to judge. that kiss in the second Live action reboot had chemistry. In every other movie I've seen that level of kissing has chemistry out the wazoo. They probably just didn't want to admit it in front of Fred and Daphne. Be cool ignores relationships in favor of other subjects of comedy. Get a clue is hard to judge too.
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