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Post by russm on Apr 14, 2015 10:44:12 GMT -5
Anything you imagine we COULD do, we just very well might.  Even 'Velma's world of partial differential equations'? |
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Post by pegasuscoconut on Apr 14, 2015 15:20:25 GMT -5
I'm so sorry everyone, It was my fault getting everyone excited about may. I thought toonzone was a reliable site but I guess even they make mistakes. I guess jcb confirmed it. Again, I apologize for being misleading, I was convinced toonzone would be right, as they have been in the past. Well, back to the drawing board with the release date I guess. Thanks for confirming, jcb, we all appreciate it. Hopefully this fall then, but we will never know unless it is announced. On Toonzone did you see it on the forums or the main site? I saw it on the main site but then that whole page got deleted and jcb confirmed it wasn't airing in may. But I guess we should still have our fingers crossed that we will get a date in the boomerang upfront.  |
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Post by alfonso on Apr 14, 2015 19:04:59 GMT -5
I really liked the animation from Be Cool, and I think it matches perfect with the focus of this series... But I didn't like the Phineas and Ferb animation :v One thing that I was wondering why did the hairs shapes changed?? Comparing the promo shoot with the Be Cool preview ones (Announcement from Comic Come) and the Pitch or does this variate and on its normal way it's like the original one??? So I just get more excited every day, but it still pisses me off that there are no news from the release date or any promo (yeah, I know you guys are working very much on it to make it perfect mostly for us the fans and for you guys) but I really want this show to air, mainly because I'm waiting for it at least one year for it, so I literally can't wait for Be Cool to release... So I know that you can say or make anything but I would (well mostly everyone) would really want to see the show before July, I mean that if you get to go to a meeting for the release date please make it happen for June And thank you guys for putting so much effort on the show Note: One thing about the show:"Will Be Cool feature new story's/monster or old ones (like Elias)??" (I know you're not allowed but I would participate at least an a)Yes b)No c)Just some eps/just one) Believe me, we want everyone to see what we've been working so hard on as soon as possible, too. Scheduling and air-dates are a complex matter that have to do with Networks and Studios and marketing people and international needs and also creative needs, etc etc etc. I understand the frustration, which is also why I have been popping in and chatting here and on Twitter, saying what I'm allowed to say about the series. I'd rather not have anyone get the wrong ideas or let false rumors spread. Plus, of course, Scooby fans are fantastic and really into it, which is always so cool! In terms of the stories, all I will say is that this will be a very character driven show. The stories are more about what would be fun, funny and interesting for these specific characters, the way we re-created them. The mysteries and monsters are the background or "stage" on which our main characters act and interact. We're trying a whole bunch of different things, experimenting and playing, to see what it does to the characters. So, basically, we're not being too precious or setting any strict rules about monsters or mysteries. Anything you imagine we COULD do, we just very well might. Great! And thanks for taking a time to answer and comment here |
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Post by scoobnick on Apr 18, 2015 16:03:34 GMT -5
thanks for responding JCB. ultimately its the stories and adventures that the characters go through that matters. also matters if the opening theme is good. when i first heard Gets a clues 'theme', i know things were off on the wrong foot, and the show itself didnt improve from there.. the theme is , in essence your first intro to the series or show. a good theme with catch peoples interest, a bad one will drive them away and only those diehards will give the show a shot.
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Post by Matt_the_miner_49er on Apr 19, 2015 4:33:16 GMT -5
It may be the characters and stories that matter but like you said, no one ever talks about how much they like the animation of Phineas, so why then make a show that will follow a similar path? The Scooby Doo animation has always been a hot debate and what BC is having to offer animation wise just seems lazy.
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Post by jcb on Apr 19, 2015 12:50:55 GMT -5
It may be the characters and stories that matter but like you said, no one ever talks about how much they like the animation of Phineas, so why then make a show that will follow a similar path? The Scooby Doo animation has always been a hot debate and what BC is having to offer animation wise just seems lazy. The goal was not, obviously, to create a unappealing look. The main character designs were already in that vicinity when Zac and I came on board. WB decided, after MI, that they wanted to make a fresh, funnier Scooby show. The first thing they did was begin with the look of the characters - and "funny" to them, I suppose, meant to push the animation in a more cartoony way, in keeping with other successful animated comedy shows (Simpsons, Family Guy, Phineas, South Park, etc.). I guess the idea is if you have slightly less realistic and more pushed character designs, you can get away with more pushed, surreal and absurd humor. You're telling the audience that anything can happen - we are in a different world than any other Scooby, with different rules. These characters allow us new facial expressions, different kinds of physicality you've never seen before from a Scooby show, etc. Once the show is airing and I have permission, I will tell you guys the whole, long odd story of how and why the show was developed the way it was. It's pretty interesting - if you're into that kinda thing. Either way, the whole project was started (3 months before Zac and I arrived) with ONLY these three elements in place: 1. WB wanted to make a smart and funny Scooby show like Phineas and Ferb. 2. WB hired character designer FIRST to start exploring what a "funnier" Scooby show would look like. 3. They decided to call it "Be Cool Scooby Doo" as the original inspiration for the new designs were based on 1960's underground comic illustrations (although Zac pulled them back away from that once he came on board). When Zac and I were hired that was what we were handed to work with (apart from some character ideas that we discarded because they didn't fit into what we wanted to do). We then basically rebuilt the entire series from scratch, starting with the pushed character designs and the idea that it should be "smart and funny" like Phineas. Once we did the "math' of the characters, building up each one in relation to each other (as one does with any good comedic, sit-com, multi-character series), we decided that the stories would work best if the characters had more personal stakes in the outcomes of the mysteries. We build mysteries around characters, some more than others - or, at least, put our characters into situations or environments that we know will bring out the funnier aspects of their personalities or create conflict - CONFLICT BEING THE KEY TO WRITING STORIES. In terms of of "lazy," well, I think following the same old designs and not trying something new would be lazy. These designs really add to the characters' revamped personalities and allows them a much larger range of acting and expressions to play the comedy and horror. Trust me, we KNEW we would be criticized for the new look, but we feel it's the right way to go to tell the kind of stories we're telling and allow for the kind of humor we're attempting. It's really pretty out-there at times. In the end, I'd rather have our show have a unique look all its own, rather than look like the DVD movies or specials or what's been done before. The characters' look has changed constantly since 1969 and we are aware that some people will have a hard time adjusting to any change (as they always have with every new Scooby show). Hopefully, the stories, characters, tone, comedy and approach will blend with he look to make a coherent show that everyone loves as much as we do. |
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Post by alfonso on Apr 19, 2015 16:48:02 GMT -5
It may be the characters and stories that matter but like you said, no one ever talks about how much they like the animation of Phineas, so why then make a show that will follow a similar path? The Scooby Doo animation has always been a hot debate and what BC is having to offer animation wise just seems lazy. The goal was not, obviously, to create a unappealing look. The main character designs were already in that vicinity when Zac and I came on board. WB decided, after MI, that they wanted to make a fresh, funnier Scooby show. The first thing they did was begin with the look of the characters - and "funny" to them, I suppose, meant to push the animation in a more cartoony way, in keeping with other successful animated comedy shows (Simpsons, Family Guy, Phineas, South Park, etc.). I guess the idea is if you have slightly less realistic and more pushed character designs, you can get away with more pushed, surreal and absurd humor. You're telling the audience that anything can happen - we are in a different world than any other Scooby, with different rules. These characters allow us new facial expressions, different kinds of physicality you've never seen before from a Scooby show, etc. Once the show is airing and I have permission, I will tell you guys the whole, long odd story of how and why the show was developed the way it was. It's pretty interesting - if you're into that kinda thing. Either way, the whole project was started (3 months before Zac and I arrived) with ONLY these three elements in place: 1. WB wanted to make a smart and funny Scooby show like Phineas and Ferb. 2. WB hired character designer FIRST to start exploring what a "funnier" Scooby show would look like. 3. They decided to call it "Be Cool Scooby Doo" as the original inspiration for the new designs were based on 1960's underground comic illustrations (although Zac pulled them back away from that once he came on board). When Zac and I were hired that was what we were handed to work with (apart from some character ideas that we discarded because they didn't fit into what we wanted to do). We then basically rebuilt the entire series from scratch, starting with the pushed character designs and the idea that it should be "smart and funny" like Phineas. Once we did the "math' of the characters, building up each one in relation to each other (as one does with any good comedic, sit-com, multi-character series), we decided that the stories would work best if the characters had more personal stakes in the outcomes of the mysteries. We build mysteries around characters, some more than others - or, at least, put our characters into situations or environments that we know will bring out the funnier aspects of their personalities or create conflict - CONFLICT BEING THE KEY TO WRITING STORIES. In terms of of "lazy," well, I think following the same old designs and not trying something new would be lazy. These designs really add to the characters' revamped personalities and allows them a much larger range of acting and expressions to play the comedy and horror. Trust me, we KNEW we would be criticized for the new look, but we feel it's the right way to go to tell the kind of stories we're telling and allow for the kind of humor we're attempting. It's really pretty out-there at times. In the end, I'd rather have our show have a unique look all its own, rather than look like the DVD movies or specials or what's been done before. The characters' look has changed constantly since 1969 and we are aware that some people will have a hard time adjusting to any change (as they always have with every new Scooby show). Hopefully, the stories, characters, tone, comedy and approach will blend with he look to make a coherent show that everyone loves as much as we do. Really true, and its really interesting to know the production/creation process from the show. Would be great if there is some kind of mini documental/videos where it shows the process of the development and the making of the show About the designs, People may not love it, but I like it really much, and I support you guys because I know that you're working hard to make the show perfect Apart from that, the show seems really good, can't wait to see it |
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Post by ahkyahnan on Apr 19, 2015 19:17:24 GMT -5
I agree. I personally liked the animation in Phineas & Ferb. It was unique and fit the show.
I also appreciate the insights & updates that you've frequently provided. The creative and production side of things have always been of great interest to me. I think a behind the scenes video is indeed a great idea. Maybe something on the website when available.
Thanks.
Mark
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Post by jcb on Apr 19, 2015 20:45:51 GMT -5
I don't know of any plans for a behind the scenes documentary at this point. I guess I would have noticed people walking around filming us if one was in the works. Then again, as we gear up with marketing and launching the series, who knows what WB will decide to do?
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Post by beanosponge on Apr 23, 2015 11:57:56 GMT -5
I also like the animation in Phineas and Ferb.
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Post by beanosponge on Apr 23, 2015 11:59:27 GMT -5
It sounds like it is still in development. Given the writers I think they have plenty of ideas, it just takes a lot of time to do it properly - we don't want another SD:MI teen-angst soap-opera on out hands. Whilst I'm so-so about the animation I've seen so far I will wait to see a few episodes before I get an opinion. I already know this show will fail. The Scooby shows since APNSD were just parodies. If it is still going wouldn't we be getting more info on it? We know this show is still going. Also, I don't agree with you about the Scooby shows since APNSD being parodies. |
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Apr 23, 2015 17:45:28 GMT -5
If the new show is still going wouldn't we be getting news about it and it didn't appear in CN's 2015-16 line up. The theory about the shows since APNSD being parodies is the weird animation and the characters acting way different then the HB shows. I could tell What's New Scooby-Doo and Mystery Incorporated for example were parodies just they way they treated the characters.
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Post by SpiderScooby on Apr 23, 2015 18:19:14 GMT -5
It's possible they didn't have anything ready for upfronts. After all, there's plenty of 2015 left.
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Post by Doo on Apr 23, 2015 18:41:03 GMT -5
If the new show is still going wouldn't we be getting news about it and it didn't appear in CN's 2015-16 line upfront Jon Colton Barry said that it might be airing on Boomerang now on Twitter, so that could be why it wasn't in the upfront. |
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Post by beanosponge on Apr 24, 2015 11:21:15 GMT -5
If the new show is still going wouldn't we be getting news about it and it didn't appear in CN's 2015-16 line up. The theory about the shows since APNSD being parodies is the weird animation and the characters acting way different then the HB shows. I could tell What's New Scooby-Doo and Mystery Incorporated for example were parodies just they way they treated the characters. 1. It will be airing on Boomerang 2. jcb (who works on the show) has said it is still going. |
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