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Post by ScoobyAddict on Aug 4, 2010 6:28:25 GMT -5
I never thought of it like that either, but you are so right. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
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Post by Fraphne Lover!! on Aug 4, 2010 6:33:30 GMT -5
I caught that too. Hadn't thought of this before, but in a way this story is a little like those where a single father starts dating another woman after several years of being alone, and is reluctant to tell his kid because he's not sure how the child will handle a third person in the relationship. Shaggy's not Scooby's dad obviously, but he his sort like his caretaker as well as best friend. yeah now that you mention this i sorta see this velma shaggy scooby thing like this can't wait to see how it ends up (hope it is good though)
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Post by sagg on Sept 29, 2010 16:08:25 GMT -5
Well, what do you all think of this "triangle" so far since this thread was created? It will make "Freight Hound" more interesting, I think...
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Post by ahkyahnan on Sept 29, 2010 16:51:41 GMT -5
Well for me, as I mentioned in a couple other related threads, I currently think the "triangle" is going to begin working its way into the Mr. E mystery backstory. And probably vice-versa that backstory is going to impact the "triangle".
The producers have put a lot of effort into creating quite a bit of tension around all of this, and considering how much thought and attention to detail they've put into this whole project, I can't believe they're that oblivious to the fan reaction. So I have to think it's part of a bigger plan that will become more self-evident as the story progresses, and not just something they threw in there for the fun of it.
So for now I just enjoy it as funny at times and also a new character development approach for a Scooby cartoon, and trust it'll all make much more sense before too long. It could end up being one of those "wow I never saw that coming" kinda things, or it I could be completely wrong and they're just out of touch with how fans perceive it. I don't think so though, so for now I'm watching and 'studying' the "triangle" as a developing plot element and not just an unrelated relationship side-story.
What's funny is that I do see Fred/Daphne as being more of a side-story of its own and only indirectly related to the developing Mr. E mystery, and have begun to wonder if that was added to initially throw people off from connecting the dots about the "triangle" and the old Mystery Inc. gang connection, if any? So we'd initially just think, "oh, so they're going to pair them off for this series", and then just think of both as unrelated 'soap opera' stuff, and therefore not thinking too hard about the "triangle"?
Or maybe I just think to much. But it's fun!!
Cool to have a Scooby show you can put this much thought into.
Mark
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Post by ScoobyAddict on Sept 29, 2010 19:39:34 GMT -5
I would have to agree with ahkyahnan...I would think they would have this whole "triangle" in the show to create a storyline, and not just as filler for the show. I couldn't imagine that they would cause this much chaos between the 3 characters and not use it to build on the plot. The reaction of fans has to be evident to WB, so it's got to be for a purpose and not just to annoy people and make them dislike the characters. I just hope they end it soon...it is getting a bit old! Of course, by the time they start airing the show again, I may not care so much because I miss the show!
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Post by sagg on Sept 30, 2010 15:52:34 GMT -5
I would have to agree with ahkyahnan...I would think they would have this whole "triangle" in the show to create a storyline, and not just as filler for the show. I couldn't imagine that they would cause this much chaos between the 3 characters and not use it to build on the plot. The reaction of fans has to be evident to WB, so it's got to be for a purpose and not just to annoy people and make them dislike the characters. I just hope they end it soon...it is getting a bit old! Of course, by the time they start airing the show again, I may not care so much because I miss the show! This is why I like this angle. Putting this much thought into Scooby Doo's characters? Are you kidding me? I take back slightly from my post about no other H-B character being re-imagined like this. I recall the mid-90's Jonny Quest series on CN, which was quite good, and far superior to that tripe mid-80's one. No, I'm convinced THIS Scooby is far different than any I've ever seen, and the only reason SDWAY? is ranked above SD:MI on my list is because it was the first one which spawned the others. In fact, one could argue SD:MI could provide the backstory on SDWAY?. Yes, they could.
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Post by ahkyahnan on Sept 30, 2010 22:20:27 GMT -5
Not to get off-topic, but found this interesting tidbit about a live action version while looking up that mid-80's Jonny Quest you referred to. I recalled the 90's version, but don't believe I ever saw those new 80's eps. www.imdb.com/title/tt1083850/When you say "one could argue SD:MI could provide the backstory on SDWAY?", do you mean like a prequel of sorts to WAY? I'll admit it does feel like one sometimes, except that they keep showing several of the original mysteries as having already been solved. To me though, the gang in WAY? seems older than in SD:MI, which is probably why I feel like it could be treated as a (re-imagined) prequel if not for those references. Another thing that helps is that I feel like they've managed to do something really different with this series, while at the same time maintaining a strong connection to the original. Not an easy feat. Mark
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Post by sagg on Oct 4, 2010 13:44:44 GMT -5
Not to get off-topic, but found this interesting tidbit about a live action version while looking up that mid-80's Jonny Quest you referred to. I recalled the 90's version, but don't believe I ever saw those new 80's eps. www.imdb.com/title/tt1083850/When you say "one could argue SD:MI could provide the backstory on SDWAY?", do you mean like a prequel of sorts to WAY? I'll admit it does feel like one sometimes, except that they keep showing several of the original mysteries as having already been solved. To me though, the gang in WAY? seems older than in SD:MI, which is probably why I feel like it could be treated as a (re-imagined) prequel if not for those references. Another thing that helps is that I feel like they've managed to do something really different with this series, while at the same time maintaining a strong connection to the original. Not an easy feat. Mark Yes, I mean in sort of a prequel to SDWAY?, but also happening at the same time, if that makes any sense. After all, the creators of this series seem to go to great pains to give a sense that this series is happening in the early 70's like the original one did (though it was the end of the 60's if you want to get technical about it) by dressing the gang in their original clothing, and using 70's-looking vehicles. And yes also in that the SDWAY? characters looked a tad older than the SD:MI ones, but I believe they too, were in high school (though I thought they were in college there for awhile). The biggest thing about SD:MI to me is that the main characters have what can be considered a real backstory this time, and we see their real personal problems that teens have, making them more than just mystery solvers. I like that. I heard that a new Jonny Quest movie was going to be made, but I think they should've used a younger JQ (and Hadji). The origial JQ was about what, 11 to 12, or something? This guy's pushing 20, right? It's like when Chris O'Donell became Robin. I thought it was ridiculous for a grown man to call himself Robin. Sheesh, he should've just went on and called himself Nightwing! Sorry to have just responded. I'm on vacation at the moment, and I'm just getting to the threads on my bro's computer. And believe you me, you didn't miss anything in not seeing the 80's JQ's, so thank your lucky stars!
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Post by ahkyahnan on Oct 4, 2010 23:06:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I see where you're coming from. They really have tried to give it a retro 70's vibe with all the vintage music equipment and so on. A laptop or cel here and there, but not too much. That's why I called it sort of a 're-imagined' prequel.
One thing I have noticed that's pretty different from WAY? though is that the villains and their 'modus operandi' are usually a lot less believable. Back in the 70's eps...up until about WAY? Season 3 at least...the villains usually used plausible means to create their ghosts and ghouls. Projectors, mirrors, etc. Season 3 started getting into jet engines, submarines and a few other 'James Bondish' gadgets, but for the most part it was pretty realistic. SD:MI villains use a lot more technology, and their outfits even seem to give them superhuman strength the way they pick stuff up and throw it and all. It has a more 'larger than life' style to it, and in that sense reminds me a little more of What's New Scooby-Doo, like that robotic snow monster. The 'sets' are much grander too. Huge caverns, the elaborate network of rope bridges in the trees of the Gnome episode, the aforementioned humungous bedrooms, etc. So in some ways its pretty different too. But still more connected to the 'heart of it' maybe.
Mark
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