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Post by rudy2691 on Oct 14, 2014 21:15:39 GMT -5
If you wanna see someone get bashed, you should see what some say about me turning my early van into the Mystery Machine on some of the early van forums. I don't care what they think. We love it.
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Post by Ark on Apr 10, 2015 12:09:32 GMT -5
Scrappy grew up and matured a lot in Boo Brothers / New Scooby Doo Mysteries era.
I like grown up Scrappy.
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Apr 13, 2015 2:15:05 GMT -5
I like the mature Scrappy. The thing I hate is that the haters look at the early Scrappy as bad but they forget that he matured in later incarnations. I also think that Flim Flam was created so the Scrappy haters would hate him instead and forget about Scrappy.
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Post by ShaphneFan on Apr 17, 2015 9:14:16 GMT -5
I actually really enjoyed scrappy.
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Post by Grumpydrawer on Dec 27, 2015 10:04:17 GMT -5
I've never found Scrappy annoying myself and I've never been able to see why other people found him as such, other than that it he was a change to Scooby Doo and people always hate change. To be honest I've always found him quite funny, a nice contrast to Shaggy's and Scooby's cowardice. Plus his misunderstanding of Scooby's actions (mistaking his cowardice and mistakes for bravery) is amusing.
Though admittedly I've only ever really seen him in Ghoul School, Boo Brothers and Reluctant Werewolf. Where is confidence doesn't stand out much since the monsters aren't aimed at being scary there and the whole point is comedy, which is the whole point in Scrappy. So I can't judge him on his other experiences as I haven't seent those series in years, for example last time I saw 13 Ghost was around 2006 and what I do remember of that series is Flim Flan...oh how I detested that kid.
That little brat and the badly written romance of SDMI are definetly my most hated parts of the Scooby Doo franchise.
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Post by Soupperson on Jan 1, 2016 10:29:37 GMT -5
By the time the 13 ghosts of Scooby-Doo came around there was nothing wrong with Scrappy, the original was a bit much but I like the "newer" versions.
It's a shame they seem to be doing away with this character, because there is a lot of interesting stories that could be told with him.
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Post by somebody-doo on Mar 25, 2016 9:50:42 GMT -5
I love Scrappy!
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Post by somebody-doo on Mar 25, 2016 9:51:02 GMT -5
But not as much as Scooby.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Mar 25, 2016 10:43:08 GMT -5
I put up with Scrappy with the episodes he's in. But if I had the choice to bring him back, I wouldn't. Personally, I think we're led to believe that he's an integral part of the team that the gang and franchise couldn't possibly survive without him just because he gave a momentary resurgence in airing numbers. Some people want to think that there wouldn't be Scooby today without him, which may be a small truth behind that. But even if Scrappy had never been invented, Scooby's return would've been inevitable. Even though Cartoon Network mistreat it now, one of the reasons we still get new Scooby is because of the popularity of their reruns of pre-Scrappy (okay, so it didn't help that they played him negatively as much as possible, but I doubt many kids were seething with rage at this).
I also think that we're led to believe that Fred and Velma aren't necessary, and until her return, Daphne as well. But this just shows how easily we can be manipulated by the media. Fred and Velma's guest appearances in The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries are kind of awkward because they were suddenly dropped as if they were nothing, only to be brought back for sparodic guest appearances, which didn't help matters. And as unpopular as Fred is supposed to be, he appeared more than Velma.
The fact of the matter is, the core group of the series is and always should be Scooby, Shaggy, Daphne, Fred, and Velma. You can add members to the Justice League or the Avengers, or whatever, but in some cases, some groups should be left well enough alone. We did get Get a Clue, but apart from that I think WB have realised that it's the core group of who we saw in Scooby-Doo, Where Are You! is who we want to see. Scrappy or no Scrappy, those five is what makes the franchise as popular as it is, and not Scooby's second cousin twice removed or whatever.
With that said, I get that people are hung up over Scrappy and think he's cooler than mashed potato (and oddly Flim-Flam in some cases) and Fred and Velma are useless and should be stricken off (because it was done before and therefore can be done again, but I'm getting negative again). To each their own. I just can't stand the constant threads and posts, and whatnot of either an offense or defense of Scrappy. This won't end. This debate will go on until the end of time.
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Post by Soupperson on Mar 25, 2016 17:56:55 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is, the core group of the series is and always should be Scooby, Shaggy, Daphne, Fred, and Velma. You can add members to the Justice League or the Avengers, or whatever, but in some cases, some groups should be left well enough alone. We did get Get a Clue, but apart from that I think WB have realised that it's the core group of who we saw in Scooby-Doo, Where Are You! is who we want to see. Scrappy or no Scrappy, those five is what makes the franchise as popular as it is, and not Scooby's second cousin twice removed or whatever. The Justice League has never had a steady cast. (I know nothing about Marvel) Not even Wonder Woman is in all depictions of the team. But not having a steady cast has helped make it so popular. If you don't like Superman, Aquaman or Green Latern perhaps Hawkgirl, Green Arrow or Black Canary might suit your fancy. There's a lot of people who don't find any of the core members relatable. While the five are iconic I don't think the majority of the general public know who Daphne and Fred are, they've gone through a half a dozen reeboots over the last 20 years. That only leaves Velma and Shaggy/Scooby(who have a very similar personality). The problem with seeing the same members of the gang again and again is it can get boring. How many times have we seen Shaggy and Scooby interact at this stage? Adding a new character or bringing an old one back IMO will freshen things up. We haven't seen a new member of the gang in over 30 years, surly it's time. And if the character doesn't work out the original three shows won't go away and the character doesn't have to stay either.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Mar 25, 2016 18:23:55 GMT -5
The fact of the matter is, the core group of the series is and always should be Scooby, Shaggy, Daphne, Fred, and Velma. You can add members to the Justice League or the Avengers, or whatever, but in some cases, some groups should be left well enough alone. We did get Get a Clue, but apart from that I think WB have realised that it's the core group of who we saw in Scooby-Doo, Where Are You! is who we want to see. Scrappy or no Scrappy, those five is what makes the franchise as popular as it is, and not Scooby's second cousin twice removed or whatever. The Justice League has never had a steady cast. (I know nothing about Marvel) Not even Wonder Woman is in all depictions of the team. But not having a steady cast has helped make it so popular. If you don't like Superman, Aquaman or Green Latern perhaps Hawkgirl, Green Arrow or Black Canary might suit your fancy. There's a lot of people who don't find any of the core members relatable. While the five are iconic I don't think the majority of the general public know who Daphne and Fred are, they've gone through a half a dozen reeboots over the last 20 years. That only leaves Velma and Shaggy/Scooby(who have a very similar personality). The problem with seeing the same members of the gang again and again is it can get boring. How many times have we seen Shaggy and Scooby interact at this stage? Adding a new character or bringing an old one back IMO will freshen things up. We haven't seen a new member of the gang in over 30 years, surly it's time. And if the character doesn't work out the original three shows won't go away and the character doesn't have to stay either. I think you can get away with it in the Justice League (and Marvel's Avengers are no different). Superhero groups are changeable, but I don't think you can really go about changing Mystery Inc. At least I see no need to change them at this moment. It'd be like adding another member to the cast of Friends. There's just some things you don't do. And adding more members means even less screen time for another member. You say that none of the core group is relatable, but Scooby and Shaggy are supposed to speak for the kids watching. This has been said many times in interviews. I also find it hard to believe that nobody would know who Fred and Daphne are. Maybe you meant Velma? But in any case more people are going to know what they look like, even if they don't remember their names.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Mar 25, 2016 18:25:12 GMT -5
Having said that, I did like Hot Dog Water, but that was at the expense of losing Daphne. And just made it pointlessly awkward when she returned.
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Post by Ark on Mar 25, 2016 18:53:41 GMT -5
Hold on... Scrappy was an important character in Boo Brothers, Ghoul School, Reluctant Werewolf... It would totally work if they did a movie like those again.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Mar 25, 2016 19:00:19 GMT -5
He did actually grow up in the later years which I think most people tend to look over, probably including myself. But I'm not sure if that's really enough. He did actually suite the TV films, although I've kind of noticed how there were scenes where he almost was left behind on ocassions. But that was probably a coincidence.
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Mar 26, 2016 16:23:07 GMT -5
Actually, I sound like a hypocrite because I've said elsewhere that I would've been open to Miyumi joining the gang, which I would've accepted more than "Let, me at em, let me at em" Scrappy. They all accepted Miyumi, and she would've added diversity and a new dynamic to the gang. On other hand, "Fanon alert! Fanon alert!"
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