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Post by cartoonlover on May 11, 2021 16:06:34 GMT -5
What the Hex is Going On? is an interesting case. People think it's underrated but I think it's overrated. Now that is an interesting choice. I must admit, that is my favorite of the original series and my second favorite episode of all time, but it is interesting to see other people's opinions Yeah I thought it relied so much on build-up and suspense but it's a unique concept. I would agree to that. High-Rise Hair-raiser is another example.
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Post by matt on May 11, 2021 16:59:39 GMT -5
Had Camp Scare or Abracadabra taken it’s place as the first everyone would be calling those the holy grail movies. Eh as much as I love Camp Scare, I don't really think that would be true at all. Nostalgia definitely plays a role in people liking it, but there's a lot more to its icon status than that. The first, and probably most important, point is that it's not just another Scooby Doo mystery, it has real monsters. Now, we have had all of this before in Scooby Doo during the Scrappy era, but this was by far the darkest it had ever been. The supernatural elements are what makes this one so popular. As incredibly well done as Camp Scare might be and as much as Abracadabra Doo might resonate with people, they follow the normal Scooby Doo format The other point is that the atmosphere is completely different. Between voice actors, animation, background music. The small things make the differences with these things. They would probably all be different movies for the worse if they were in different movie time eras because of those small things Different people have different things they look for in a movie. Some people do prefer the newer era dtvs and less experimental Scooby movies it's all just a thing about personal preferences
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Post by matt on May 11, 2021 17:01:27 GMT -5
Now that is an interesting choice. I must admit, that is my favorite of the original series and my second favorite episode of all time, but it is interesting to see other people's opinions Yeah I thought it relied so much on build-up and suspense but it's a unique concept. I would agree to that. High-Rise Hair-raiser is another example. And there is my number one episode lol
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Post by cartoonlover on May 11, 2021 17:15:51 GMT -5
Yeah I thought it relied so much on build-up and suspense but it's a unique concept. I would agree to that. High-Rise Hair-raiser is another example. And there is my number one episode lol Oh really? I had no idea. The construction site is an interesting location. I'm not just all about the chase scenes but I love balance between the story/action. Watta Shocking Ghost is another example that goes heavy on suspense and the story. I just wished the 10,000 volt ghost was a little more utilized because it's such a cool monster.
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Post by elemage on May 11, 2021 17:18:24 GMT -5
Zombie Island is not as amazing as people make it out to be. I feel like it could've been longer to flesh out more of the lore of the settlers, the cat god and Simone and Lena's history post-curse. Did they struggle with their newfound abilities? Did they regret having to kill for the first few years? Or were they so consumed with vengeance and anger that they fully committed to their evil right away?
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Post by matt on May 11, 2021 19:30:19 GMT -5
Zombie Island is not as amazing as people make it out to be. I feel like it could've been longer to flesh out more of the lore of the settlers, the cat god and Simone and Lena's history post-curse. Did they struggle with their newfound abilities? Did they regret having to kill for the first few years? Or were they so consumed with vengeance and anger that they fully committed to their evil right away? I would argue that Zombie Island goes far deeper than anything Scooby Doo beyond possibly Mystery Incorporated
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Post by matt on May 11, 2021 19:36:19 GMT -5
And there is my number one episode lol Oh really? I had no idea. The construction site is an interesting location. I'm not just all about the chase scenes but I love balance between the story/action. Watta Shocking Ghost is another example that goes heavy on suspense and the story. I just wished the 10,000 volt ghost was a little more utilized because it's such a cool monster. I'll be the first to admit that my favorite episodes are among the more suspenseful and story-driven episodes (heck Watt a Shocking Ghost is another one of my favorites), but I'll also say that I believe that High Rise Hair Raiser is what in my mind is the perfect mix between the story and action. It's obviously a very story-driven episode and is generally creepy enough to the point that I feel on-edge a little bit, such as when they are in the house. But there are also some great chase sequences (a couple of construction site chase sequences which considering how dangerous it is up there it makes it all the more scary, as well as the one into the bakery) that got fit into there as well. It feels like an episode they did to optimize the story and other aspects weren't necessarily compromised, at least for me
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Post by scoobyfan69 on May 12, 2021 15:27:29 GMT -5
For me I think zombie island is overrated I still think the movie is good and It save the franchise but I don't see it as the greatest scooby doo movie ever I just see it as good and theirs nothing wrong with a movie just being good also this might just be me but I sometimes feel like that other scooby doo movies(not return to zombie island because that movie deserves all th critism it gets even if I don't hate it) think are judged negatively for not being like zombie island again this is just me and it's not the movies fault it's just how I sometimes feel but overall I think zombie island is overated.
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Post by russm on May 12, 2021 16:15:24 GMT -5
For me I think zombie island is overrated I still think the movie is good and It save the franchise but I don't see it as the greatest scooby doo movie ever I just see it as good and theirs nothing wrong with a movie just being good also this might just be me but I sometimes feel like that other scooby doo movies(not return to zombie island because that movie deserves all th critism it gets even if I don't hate it) think are judged negatively for not being like zombie island again this is just me and it's not the movies fault it's just how I sometimes feel but overall I think zombie island is overated. Yeah, Zombie Island is important for the franchise, but if I had to pick a Scooby move to watch right now, Zombie Island wouldn't be my first pick.
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Post by elemage on May 12, 2021 16:44:47 GMT -5
Zombie Island is not as amazing as people make it out to be. I feel like it could've been longer to flesh out more of the lore of the settlers, the cat god and Simone and Lena's history post-curse. Did they struggle with their newfound abilities? Did they regret having to kill for the first few years? Or were they so consumed with vengeance and anger that they fully committed to their evil right away? I would argue that Zombie Island goes far deeper than anything Scooby Doo beyond possibly Mystery Incorporated Eh, The Scooby-Doo Project and Scooby Apocalypse hit just as hard as Zombie Island and Mystery Incorporated, if not more so. I'd actually put TSDP above ZI, if it ever gets an official release. Zombie Island just left too many unanswered questions for a movie that's based on mysteries.
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Post by Jeepers on May 12, 2021 21:25:06 GMT -5
I think that was kinda the point though. Yeah it's all about mysteries but this isn't a bad guy in a mask. The monsters, and the danger, were very real. The fact that everything wasn't tied up neatly with a bow at the end made sense, to me anyway.
The overarching mystery regarding the disappearances was solved but, just like in life, there were a lot of little things that went unanswered. You weren't supposed to know everything in this instance.
I will be honest, Zombie Island and Boo Brothers are the standards I hold Scooby-Doo movies to. They were both the best, in my opinion, of their respective facets of the franchise; real monsters and masked bad guys. I know that there is a lot of praise for some newer Scooby-Doo movies but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by some of the newer movies that are praised. (Like Frankencreepy and Camp Scare.) The one newer-type movie I really remember watching and going "okay, I see you" is now almost a decade old now! (It was Mask of the Blue Falcon, btw.)
Now I still haven't seen some of the newest movies, and I can't say I haven't enjoyed any of the ones I have seen, but none gave me that feeling of the franchise being taken to another level.
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Post by cartoonlover on Aug 2, 2021 13:34:38 GMT -5
Hassle in the Castle, What the Hex is Going on?, The Backstage Rage
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Post by somebody-doo on Aug 10, 2021 12:40:03 GMT -5
Well, it's very subjective, of course. I tend to think of the original series as being pretty overrated (SDWAY Seasons 1 and 2. I know the Scooby-Doo Show is sometimes called SDWAY season 3, but I'm not including that.) It's good and has a spooky vibe, but the quality of writing and characterization doesn't hold up to some of what came after it. It seems to me that Chill Out is often underrated. I think it's one of the best Scooby movies, but I've seen many people who consider it one of the worst. I'm tempted to say Be Cool is underrated because of the backlash it got initially, but I think in the long run, many more people liked it than disliked it.
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