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Post by mattpricetime on Jul 22, 2016 19:26:24 GMT -5
Reading this for the first time, wow, they are pulling that far in the first movie? Color me shocked, but however as someone that loves HB crossovers, I'm even more excited.
However the Powerpuff Girls aren't going to be included there. Cartoon Network Studios started out as a unit within Hanna Barbera those two sides split well over a decade ago. Legally Powerpuff Girls are not Hanna Barbera, nor are they marketed as such. And haven't been seen as such for well over a decade. Wikipedia may list them still as such but they are only going be creation records. At this point I dare say the odds are better you would see Thundarr or Droopy in the HBCU more than you would the PPG.
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Post by Grumpydrawer on Jul 22, 2016 20:56:59 GMT -5
"Since the beginning of time, an epic battle has waged between humans and ghostly forces of evil, and only the spell of a powerful canine warrior can keep the spirits at bay. When the spell begins to weaken, S.C.O.O.B. – an elite group of heroes comprised of the most beloved Hanna-Barbera characters – recruit Scooby-Doo to find the enchanted collar that is the key to stopping the impending ghost attack. Together with his new group of allies and the original Mystery Inc. gang, Scooby-Doo embarks on the ultimate adventure to save man (and dog) kind!" Yeah...I think I'll be skipping this one. Just doesn't sound like my cup of tea at all. To be honest it sounds quite silly and completely out of place for the plot of a movie which is about Scooby Doo. Then again all we have is this small plot summary thus far, so I shall retain judgement until we have more infomation/the movies out. After all it maybe suprisingly good...keyword is "maybe."
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Post by Doo on Jul 23, 2016 11:33:12 GMT -5
"Since the beginning of time, an epic battle has waged between humans and ghostly forces of evil, and only the spell of a powerful canine warrior can keep the spirits at bay. When the spell begins to weaken, S.C.O.O.B. – an elite group of heroes comprised of the most beloved Hanna-Barbera characters – recruit Scooby-Doo to find the enchanted collar that is the key to stopping the impending ghost attack. Together with his new group of allies and the original Mystery Inc. gang, Scooby-Doo embarks on the ultimate adventure to save man (and dog) kind!" Yeah...I think I'll be skipping this one. Just doesn't sound like my cup of tea at all. To be honest it sounds quite silly and completely out of place for the plot of a movie which is about Scooby Doo. Then again all we have is this small plot summary thus far, so I shall retain judgement until we have more infomation/the movies out. After all it maybe suprisingly good...keyword is "maybe." I can't say I'm too fond of it either but I'll definitely watch it no matter what just to see how it is.
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Jul 23, 2016 11:52:05 GMT -5
Okay, so adding a larger group to the gang is the complete opposite of what I want...Why must things almost always turn out the opposite of the way I would like them? I'm not really complaining, just speculating.
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Post by Doo on Jul 23, 2016 12:10:25 GMT -5
Okay, so adding a larger group to the gang is the complete opposite of what I want...Why must things almost always turn out the opposite of the way I would like them? I'm not really complaining, just speculating. No worries even if you are complaining, you're entitled to your opinion even if people don't necessarily agree
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Post by russm on Jul 23, 2016 12:31:29 GMT -5
If this is correct then this probably falls in the 'just because you can doesn't mean you should' category.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jul 24, 2016 2:26:42 GMT -5
Well it certainly seems like this movie has a bigger place than even I would have thought. Here I was thinking it was mostly going to be a more typical Scooby set up, maybe leaving traces for other films. But this seems all the more of a big start with more characters being included along with the Scooby gang. Which yeah I didn't think would happen. From one perspective if you had wanted this movie to just be a Scooby Doo movie, this news must be a huge let down. On the other, if you were very much intrigued by them making a Hanna Barbera in general movie franchise, this news is probably pretty cool. Guess I'm the only one of the latter here so far?
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Post by russm on Jul 24, 2016 11:16:53 GMT -5
Well it certainly seems like this movie has a bigger place than even I would have thought. Here I was thinking it was mostly going to be a more typical Scooby set up, maybe leaving traces for other films. But this seems all the more of a big start with more characters being included along with the Scooby gang. Which yeah I didn't think would happen. From one perspective if you had wanted this movie to just be a Scooby Doo movie, this news must be a huge let down. On the other, if you were very much intrigued by them making a Hanna Barbera in general movie franchise, this news is probably pretty cool. Guess I'm the only one of the latter here so far? Well I was expecting this to be a Scooby movie, TBH I though that was how it was being presented. My real concern is that there are so many ways this can go wrong, from what I can recall HB doesn't have a strong roster of heroes, let alone super heroes who could fit the role, having Fred Flintstone put his Y-fronts over his caveman outfit doesn't turn him into a superhero. We need to know a lot more information about this but until then, well I can let The Hunt For Red October have the final say about the creative process that lead to this.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jul 24, 2016 18:46:29 GMT -5
"Super heroes" is a pretty vague term. But Hanna Barbera in itself has a long list of characters that fit to that. Among the more serious 60s roster of Space Ghost, Dino Boy, Birdman, The Galaxy Trio, the Herculoids, Shazzan, Moby Dick, Mighty Mightor. Among action/adventure series like Johnny Quest, Galtar, Wildfire, Pirates of Dark Water. More sillier styled heroes like The Impossibles, Frankenstein Jr, Hong Kong Phooey, Dynomutt, Captain Caveman, Atom Ant, Secret Squirrel. Plus other earlier funny animals that in a way were hero characters such as Quick Draw as El Kabong or Touche Turtle. That excluding if the Ruby Spears, MGM or licensed characters are available. If they are that list grows even larger.
While it is complete insanity to suggest most of those characters are going to be in this movie, there are a lot of choices to make an ensemble out of that list.
Exactly how deep they will pull for this remains to be seen. But this is also more than likely the result of Hanna Barbera's back catalog being the most released thing for WB's Animation back catalog. The dtv's have been getting nerdier but like I said even I was surprised it would be this far. I expected a simple Scooby spy mystery with maybe in the end them showing pictures of Speed Buggy, Captain Caveman and Funky Phantom on monitors saying "we need more meddling kids". But I see this premise as them having the confidence to start off the first movie with a wider ensemble. Not that they've got a madman on creative.
But I of course understand this was not what a bunch of people probably envisioned, which I'm sure could be a turn off.
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Post by russm on Jul 25, 2016 13:49:41 GMT -5
"Super heroes" is a pretty vague term. But Hanna Barbera in itself has a long list of characters that fit to that. Among the more serious 60s roster of Space Ghost, Dino Boy, Birdman, The Galaxy Trio, the Herculoids, Shazzan, Moby Dick, Mighty Mightor. Among action/adventure series like Johnny Quest, Galtar, Wildfire, Pirates of Dark Water. More sillier styled heroes like The Impossibles, Frankenstein Jr, Hong Kong Phooey, Dynomutt, Captain Caveman, Atom Ant, Secret Squirrel. Plus other earlier funny animals that in a way were hero characters such as Quick Draw as El Kabong or Touche Turtle. That excluding if the Ruby Spears, MGM or licensed characters are available. If they are that list grows even larger. Let me put this in a different way. Who? Now just under half I've heard of but none of those that I've seen really come to mind, aside from Space Ghost, as heroes that would fit the bill for this kind of movie. This is my real issue, we have a load of characters potentially unknown outside of those really interested in the HB back catalog or are older Americans who watched this on TV when they were growing up. This is my real problem with the idea.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jul 25, 2016 19:38:51 GMT -5
"Potentially" would be the word your whole concern is based on. A lot of that list are underlings. Characters who never were nor ever will be as popular as the Scooby Doo, Fred Flintstone and Yogi Bear's of the world. They would probably never sell a movie on their own, but as a part of the ensemble as a "friend of Scooby Doo" a lot of those characters become a lot more usable.
If I am judging from what WB makes and promotes, I sincerely doubt the landscape would exist as it does and this movie in itself would even be happening if those are the only people that care. By no means would I think some of their lesser characters are multi million sellers, but for the divide to be as big at is, I suspect they still have plenty of people who know a good chunk of that list. I don't think Scooby and T&J are carrying the back catalog that much, even though I would think it impossible for those two not to be carrying most of the weight still today.
One of my main thoughts there being the increase in merchandise for some of the others. Them being made does not equate to them selling, but typically it would seem foolish to waste money on some of the say Atom Ant and Secret Squirrel stuff on WBshop if you didn't think they could sell, when for the same price you could have just slapped a new picture of Scooby Doo or Fred Flintstone on it and probably sold more. Economically this implies to me they see the chance worth the risk.
Which brings me back to my main point. Scooby himself is the bread winner that should draw enough younger kids to add new fans for the lesser characters. Depending on how many there even are in this movie. If they keep it to more of the just the tier A and tier B most of this is mute. But in the current climate, if they think Scooby doesn't need to handle this movie by himself and lesser characters (but still how lesser?) are involved, I think they've seen enough results that they see the chance being worth the risk.
The point to me is that it's still a risk. But my fanboy side sees it as an easy ride down the side street. My business side sees it as a bumpy road they could slide off if they don't keep their hands on the wheel. But I think the other side sees it as a trek up a mountain they could easily crash and burn on.
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Post by scoob16 on Jul 27, 2016 2:06:17 GMT -5
I'm also skeptic about the appearance of other HB characters. I thought it was gonna be a traditional Scooby movie, perhaps with slight cameos of other HB characters. The plot sounds pretty neat, hope it turns out good. I would like to see characters that have teamed up with Scooby before, like Dynomutt or Captain Caveman.
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Post by shaggyfan86 on Jul 28, 2016 9:27:44 GMT -5
This has gotta be the weirdest plot for a theatre release ever! It'd make more sense for a direct to DVD film instead, we are trying to gain new fans by doing this. I don't know if this plots the best way to go.
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Post by Soupperson on Jul 30, 2016 7:05:41 GMT -5
This is such a bizarre plot though bizzare can be good. I imagine kids will eat this up, so at least there's merchandise for us.
I'm not sure how I feel about all three theater releases of Scooby featuring the paranormal. Doesn't it kind of go against the original's message that the real monsters are those who are corrupted by greed and lust for power. :S
Also I'm not to keen on other franchises jumping on the band wagon so early, the sequel sure but why now? I imagine Penelope will be in it just for the sake of having another female. Dynomutt might not be included for the sole reason he's a dog and may distract from Scooby.
On a side note if you want a ghost or monster to be featured tweet the directors, they asked for suggestions about two months ago and I'm sure they'll still take them.
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Post by Soupperson on Jul 30, 2016 10:42:04 GMT -5
Now that I think of it could S.C.O.O.B. be the beginning letter of each of the characters names?
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