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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Apr 13, 2015 2:26:19 GMT -5
This is something that is confusing. Hannah Barbera brought Daphne back in The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show through The 13 Ghost of Scooby-Doo because she was popular to viewers but she wasn't in the Superstars 10 movies and those were made for popular Hannah Barbera characters. Instead they invented Googie which was a waste of a character since she only appeared once.
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Post by Ark on Apr 13, 2015 9:51:40 GMT -5
Googie liked Shaggy though. In a way that Daphne didn't. It would have made tNSDM really awkward I think.
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Apr 13, 2015 18:13:54 GMT -5
Googie liked Shaggy though. In a way that Daphne didn't. It would have made tNSDM really awkward I think. Googie seemed to forced Shaggy to herself. I viewed Scooby, Shaggy and Daphne as best friends during The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show and 13 Ghosts. In my opinion the Superstar 10 movies should of followed The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show and the first four Warner Brothers DTVs would of rebooted the Superstar 10 movies. |
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Post by mattpricetime on Apr 17, 2015 5:31:24 GMT -5
For the sake of being open to possibilities. There was a small window of time between A Pup Named Scooby Doo ending and the Turner buyout. I've never heard anything of if they had already developed/were developing where to take Scooby next. (I assume he would have had at least one in the planned Superstars 10 take two)
Of course though none of that happened and the next Scooby we got was Arabian Nights, and then after that the Scooby Doo DTV line began which legally was one of the two final Hanna Barbera projects (even though technically they are also the first Wb era HB projects, legal switcharoos are a dandy to mention)
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On the main subject, that is a good question. While Ghoul School and Boo Brothers work completely fine with the three guys (alright Matches joins for a foursome at the end of Ghoul School), but in Reluctant Werewolf the formula is written to need a fourth, and we got a new created girlfriend for Shaggy with that actually acknowledged on screen. Something that for fan arguments and teases, wasn't ever set in stone for the main gang, so perhaps they didn't want to actually use Daphne in a way that said it outright? But then couldn't the movie have mostly be accomplished with a few scenes changed if Shaggy and Daphne were just friends?
But one other important context here, within the other Superstars 10 movies, newly made romantic partners are a pattern. Googie for Shaggy. Snulu for Boo Boo, Desert Flower for Huck, and Judy Jetson.....she got two! Perhaps they just wanted a new direction with a new pairing for Shaggy?
Unfortunantly that's as much guessing as I can do as just a fan.
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Post by scoobnick on Apr 18, 2015 21:06:24 GMT -5
like with googie, those other partners are only mentioned in the films they appeared and never again afterwards, as far as i know.
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Post by ShaphneLegacy27 on Apr 18, 2015 23:20:34 GMT -5
I would of liked it if Hannah Barbera used elements from The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show in the Suprstars 10 movies. Hannah Barbera could of officially made Shaggy and Daphne a couple with those movies but only portrayed them as close friends instead of romantically. Maybe if it went this way and they didn't go down the road to APNSD and did one or two more Superstars 10 movies it would of made Scooby, Shaggy, Daphne and Scrappy being together more popular which might of lead to a new series with them and things like the 2002 live action movie, Get a Clue and Mystery Incorporated wouldn't of happened. I think Googie is what lead Shaggy to later having more girl friends who only appeared once in the Warner Brothers productions which got annoying.
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Post by mattpricetime on Apr 19, 2015 10:34:47 GMT -5
History wise this is where it get's hazy. The reason we know of this proposed second Superstars 10 set (even though no one seemingly has a copy of the whole thing to post) is a memo sent for advertizing from that time frame.
Given that the first batch of Superstars 10 were thought out and drafted at least in 1987 (unless it took longer to sell?). A Pup Named Scooby Doo started airing before the last Scooby Superatars 10 film aired. I don't know exactly how long historically there was between A Pup Named Scooby Doo's planning and selling. But I do think it's safe to say the plan to make APNSD more than likely happened concurrently with the making and airing of the Superstars 10.
So technically while the decision to take the current tv show into babyfication the movies were intended to keep adult scooby moving forward. I think this is a little more potent when you remember that basically is the model The Flintstones operated on in the 90s. The 90s tv show incarnation was a baby Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm spinoff while the made for tv movies kept the timeline moving forward with them as adults. (A Flintstone Christmas Carol is an outlier because it was a leftover from the second Superstars 10 set)
Given that Reluctant Werewolf ends with obvious sequel hook, perhaps Scooby, Scrappy and Shaggy with a steady girlfriend Googie was a possibility of how they wanted to take Scooby on in the future? Unfortunately though I don't think there's much hope us uber-fans are going to find out answers to these, unless some of the old employees saved some scraps or notes from back then to tell us.
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Post by scoobnick on Apr 19, 2015 12:35:53 GMT -5
so what you are saying matt is the the supetstar 10 and Pups happened roughly around the same time. Pup started in 1988 and was of a king with the Fintstone kids and Muppet Babies.
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Post by mattpricetime on Apr 20, 2015 10:30:55 GMT -5
Well yes, The Superstars Ten films were in 1987 and 1988. Assuming that like the second set, the first set would have been "conceptualized" and taken out to be shopped to networks for funding. Given the first one aired in September of 1987, i'm going to assume they were created in early 1987. But the actual production on each probably stretched through 1987 and 1988. (as in the story boarding, the drawings, the editing, etc)
The 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo ended in December of 1985. Re-runs of older Scoobys continued until A Pup Named Scooby Doo's arrival in September 1988. Scooby Doo and the Reluctant Werewolf didn't air until after that debut. So I think it's a pretty logical assumption that at some point the studio were working on both A Pup Named Scooby Doo and at least Reluctant Werewolf(Maybe even Ghoul School) at the same time.
I say maybe on one isuse, because clearly there's no real firm number of how long any single show/movie had to go through selling or early development, but overall these are in the same two years.
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Post by scoobnick on Apr 20, 2015 22:31:05 GMT -5
normally it takes at least a few months to greenlight a project, longer if the project is expensive and with a big budget. we dont know what the budget was for the superstar 10 or pup was.
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Post by shaggyfan86 on May 22, 2015 3:19:24 GMT -5
Yah, I never understood this either. None of the 80s flicks had Daph in them even though she returned in between them.
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