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Post by Grumpydrawer on Jan 17, 2016 17:07:48 GMT -5
Where exactly did you hear that? The only replies I've ever seen straight from Warner are there are clearances issues with the 90s series. And Scott Awley on other groups has stated he's very sure it's clearance on music rights that holds up the 90s Addams Family release. That's interesting, I found something about it back around on a site which was from 2006. Which considering it's a while since then would make sense that A clearance issues could have popped up (as various involved parties change things all the time) or B,the more likely scenario here, is that what I read was a load of rubbish. I just went with that since that's what I had heard before even though it's probably wrong...hence another lesson in why you should never trust what you see/read on the internet. Though now you mention issues with the music rights that would be the likely problem, since companies with the rights to music appear to be the strictest enforcers or copyright and the like from what I've read/heard over the years. Case in points many rereleased shows having music removed from them. I imagine the problem for the 90s series would be the theme song if it's to do with music rights, considering how iconic that theme is. No doubt the Addams Family theme is heavily copyrighted? Regardless it isn't been released any time soon (if at all) which is a shame as I'd quite like to pick up that series as it was very well done, unlike the 70s series with that awful performance by the voice actor for Gomez.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jan 17, 2016 17:18:06 GMT -5
If it was back then, it makes more sense. That was before we had a Warner Archive, and as such Warner Home Video may have wanted a tie-in to release it. But naturally a lot has changed since then.
Clearance rights, can be a tough issue. However so far of the library we did have one victory. Loopy De Loop was cited on facebook to have had music clearances needed. And that series did in fact get released in 2014. It stands to reason if they were able to clear one, they may very well try to clear others.
Problem is each and every issue could be different, and we have no idea which ones are closer to 1 or 10 on a scale of easy to fix. As some could be as simple as "we want x of money". Others might take months of negotiations with the parties at hand.
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Post by Grumpydrawer on Jan 17, 2016 17:41:42 GMT -5
If it was back then, it makes more sense. That was before we had a Warner Archive, and as such Warner Home Video may have wanted a tie-in to release it. But naturally a lot has changed since then. Clearance rights, can be a tough issue. However so far of the library we did have one victory. Loopy De Loop was cited on facebook to have had music clearances needed. And that series did in fact get released in 2014. It stands to reason if they were able to clear one, they may very well try to clear others. Problem is each and every issue could be different, and we have no idea which ones are closer to 1 or 10 on a scale of easy to fix. As some could be as simple as "we want x of money". Others might take months of negotiations with the parties at hand. That is a fair point. Times certainly have changed since 2006. Good to hear there was at least one victory then thus far! It's always fustrating when shows don't get released, like Disney's Hercules cartoon. A masterpiece and one of Disney's best animated series (based on one of their movies) yet despite that and the good ratings it got the most it ever got in terms of a release was five episodes on a VHS. Copyrights of older things do seem to have habit of getting spread all over the place. In part because many older companies no longer exist anymore and different parts of the company (and it's copyrights) are now owned by different parties. And of course there is the issue of sales after/if Warner Bros got the rights to relase something. After all if you spend x amount of money on getting the rights to release something you do want to make a profit on that something, otherwise you'd have wasted that x amount of money. Though I presume Hanna Barbera's copyrights all went to Warner Bros right? Except for the shows HB did which featured characters not owned by them (like the Addams Family) and were merely licenced.
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Post by mattpricetime on Jan 17, 2016 17:58:11 GMT -5
For the most part yes. But it's always good to remember not everything always falls into a nice little pattern. Hanna Barbera did maintain some shows, with character they don't own. One of the major factors that crops up here is several of these happened before there was such a thing as home media in any meaningful form. As a result those old contracts may hold up for tv re-runs still to this day, they didn't have the capacity to cover dvd releases or anything similar.
Since that point I don't think there are that many "character rights clearances" to be found. By then the idea of getting the rights to use for home media was a thing probably worked into the original contracts. However some very much do need to be handled for "music clearance rights". Which could be for a variety of reasons.
I'd say at the moment now, odds are looking decently in the favor of them progressing. I'd imagine the more releases they put out that continue to sell, the more likely they will be to use some of that profit to pay off the clearances of others. As i'm pretty sure several of the big "issued" ones would sell plenty well to recoup some costs when/if their day comes. (New Scooby Movies being one of course)
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Post by scoobypediapossible on Jan 20, 2016 5:07:47 GMT -5
Looking it at the view point of the house being the guest star, I have to agree, because the Addamses themselves are so incredibly useless.
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Post by somebody-doo on Apr 3, 2016 9:15:09 GMT -5
This is one of my favorite episodes in the show.
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Post by Ark on Jun 4, 2016 18:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 12:15:51 GMT -5
Sorry for bumping but this is a good episode i like that Pugsley actually did the one thing that every kid dreams of being able to dig into China but being told the impossible can't happen despite it happening due to Adams misery and I guess shaggy certianly followed the themesong of "they're creepy and their kooky mysterious and spooky, all together ooky the adams family" too bad no one in Mystery Inc snapped their fingers on it.
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Post by barneynedward on May 26, 2017 15:57:48 GMT -5
This is another one of my favorite episodes. They'll probably be able to release it someday.
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Post by Doo on Jun 3, 2017 11:44:34 GMT -5
I've always wondered a bit about that myself. If they were able to acquire the rights to the Addams Family back in the 90s, why couldn't they now? Same goes for Josie and the Pussycats, which HB was able to make two series out of.
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Post by scoobnick on Jun 3, 2017 18:24:57 GMT -5
i think you could do an entire addams family set, including the original liva action 60s show, the 70s cartoon 9incluiding the scooby episode and the 90s films and cartoon show, in one big pack. you could do a 50th anniversary thing9 the first animated series was in 1973, and their first animated appearance was actually their guest turn in Scooby
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Post by Doo on Jun 3, 2017 19:47:34 GMT -5
their first animated appearance was actually their guest turn in Scooby That's actually not entirely true. Several episodes of the animated series had aired before they guest starred on The New Scooby-Doo Movies.
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Post by barneynedward on Oct 7, 2018 13:15:57 GMT -5
I think that in the 70s Addams Family cartoon, Gomez should have been voiced by Don Messick. Len Weinrib was terrible.
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Post by elemage on Apr 4, 2019 17:23:53 GMT -5
Even after they were finally able to release all the other episodes, Wednesday is STILL missing. That's so sad.
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Post by SpiderScooby on Apr 5, 2019 0:28:30 GMT -5
It's my favorite episode too😪
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