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Post by Whyboy on Sept 4, 2016 0:35:50 GMT -5
Whyboy is bewitched with the rocking Hex Girls and the suave Tim Curry in Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost. ENJOY!
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Post by scoobnick on Sept 5, 2016 15:46:43 GMT -5
Next to Zombie Island, this is one of the best Scooby movies.
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Post by Toki on Feb 21, 2017 20:57:51 GMT -5
Witches Ghost, one of my favorites of the movies.
With Velma as my favorite out of all the characters, things with backstory for her I love to bits. And well, I'm with her. I probably would have fallen head over heels for Ben Ravencroft, and been caught off guard just the same. Ben is such a neat villain, being all manipulative and such. I love him as this impactful and yet... I think Velma would still pine for him, in the back of her mind and heart. Making her insecure with things she already was pretty shy about. And it builds more character depth.
I wish the ending had been better, though yay Hex girls. But I can understand that someone in the writing team was trying to do something through the story, and it ended the way it did. Though It did give such amazing sets of songs, and the Hex Girls to be able to come back in other incarnations.
I liked the false ghost angle of the story. Possibly being the first of all the 'villains' that ended up not some bad criminal. (remembering a few times in WNSD has monsters and baddies that might have a good reason, for doing bad things. Like Wrestlemanaics trying to stop their dad from hurting himself) They as a town, wanted to bring people to their failing town, and that was their solution. So it's possible that Witches Ghost set that precedent that would be used in several later series.
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Post by barneynedward on Feb 22, 2017 16:55:21 GMT -5
Scooby handling the SWT and persecution and or even Wicca, OR anything with lots of historic accuracy... I don't recall it happening so far, so I can't judge them by not doing it now, or then, being that I love the show so much. It's just not very conducive to a good storyline, or their storyline they already conceptualized anyway. Also, you have to realize it was a Monsters Real universe. I could ask them that in a Fake Monsters universe. Yeah I mean why would Merlin, a GOOD wizard be an evil ghost?
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Post by Ark on Feb 23, 2017 21:41:01 GMT -5
Scooby handling the SWT and persecution and or even Wicca, OR anything with lots of historic accuracy... I don't recall it happening so far, so I can't judge them by not doing it now, or then, being that I love the show so much. It's just not very conducive to a good storyline, or their storyline they already conceptualized anyway. Also, you have to realize it was a Monsters Real universe. I could ask them that in a Fake Monsters universe. Yeah I mean why would Merlin, a GOOD wizard be an evil ghost? Or why was Shaggy's uncle trying to scare Shaggy after giving him his mansion and turning into a ghost?
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Post by barneynedward on Feb 23, 2017 23:38:46 GMT -5
Yeah I mean why would Merlin, a GOOD wizard be an evil ghost? Or why was Shaggy's uncle trying to scare Shaggy after giving him his mansion and turning into a ghost? Maybe he was trying to scare him out of leaving.
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Post by CaptainBuck on Apr 19, 2017 0:10:59 GMT -5
Again, as I said, I have no need for historic accuracy in Scooby. Sometimes it's a help, sometime it's not.
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Post by scoobnick on Apr 19, 2017 8:09:26 GMT -5
yeah, being painstakingly historically accurate is not what we need in scooby. see the spirits of 1976 where the ghost of george washington shouts " get out of my home!"
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Post by wileyk209 on Oct 12, 2018 21:41:46 GMT -5
Definitely my favorite of the early direct-to-video Scooby-Doo movies by Warner Bros. Animation. It's very high-quality, and much better than "What's New Scooby-Doo," and the Hex Girls were really awesome. I love that hand-painted cel animation look; Mook DLE did such a great job with the overseas animation. I also enjoyed Tim Curry as Ben Ravencroft and Tress MacNeille as Sarah; this was made back when Tress was still a regular at Warner Bros. Animation (after all, she starred in "Tiny Toon Adventures" and "Animaniacs") before Sander Schwartz and Collette Sunderman pretty much phased her out in the early 2000s in favor of Grey DeLisle-Griffin and Tara Strong.
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Post by Dyland on Sept 9, 2019 19:26:23 GMT -5
Still had a Barnes & Noble gift card leftover since my birthday and decided to finally go and spend it this past weekend. They had all 4 of the Mook Animation DTV Scooby films on DVD, and I just couldn't pass them up! The last time I'd seen any of these was on VHS (Alien Invaders being one of, if not the last film, I ever watched before retiring the VHS player), so, I was tepidly excited to watch them all again.
Witch's Ghost had previously been a so-so entry IMHO. But watching it again, I've got to rank it right up there with Zombie Island. I actually consider the two films perfect equals, even though there are some significant differences. (Ward vs Innes Shaggy, Zombie focusing only briefly on a 'people in masks' monster plot right at the beginning, while Witch's Ghost has well over half the film dedicated to an actual solvable mystery, Zombie's gang getting back together subplot, while Witch's Ghost just has them back together seemingly for good...) Ah, apples and oranges!
My favorite part has definitely got to be the Hex Girls. They're some of my favorite side characters to ever be added to the franchise, and its nice to see them still make appearances every now and again. (albeit, fairly watered down, but still - nice callbacks) Animation seemed just a tad worse this time around (even noticed a few animation errors on first viewing!) although, it's easy enough to overlook. This adventure still manages to give us some simply fantastic visuals - again utilizing shadows and highlights (on the characters) to full effect!
A admit that the whole Wiccan backstory/explanation was a little ham-fisted and potentially offputting to some, but eh, it's just a movie, and nothing in Witch's Ghost ever came close to breaking my suspension of disbelief. On the contrary, I found the story well done and the execution brilliant (again).
Now that Zombie Island has gotten a """sequel""" I wonder if Witch's Ghost will ever get the same treatment. Seems like the series has been reflecting recently, and I wouldn't put it past WB to continue down this direction. Nostalgia's a big seller right now, and Scooby-Doo is such a long-running and entertaining series, I'd love to see more callbacks and sequels to unfinished plotlines and the like. If only they could get back Innes and BJ Ward for a DTV sometime.
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Post by Ark on Jan 7, 2021 20:21:28 GMT -5
I've already commented on this, but I remember this movie gave me a nightmare once and it involved peas and my uncle along with the theme of this movie. It was very strange. Zombie Island did this for me. Had a nightmare that I was stuck in a graveyard, like the elephant graveyard in Lion King, with some evil spell stealing people's souls and leaving behind nothing but their rib bones. I looked over and Shaggy turned into nothing but a rib bone, stuck into the dirt like a crude gravestone marker. I didn't want Shaggy dead. It really freaked me out. In retrospect, Zombie Island was a good introductory film into shonen manga and anime. A scenario such as this isn't weird at all for say, an episode of InuYasha.
In fact, I believe that anime had a large influence on these three films. There's a lot of reasons why, but the Hex Girls are a major reason I think so. From their hairstyles to their ambitious self-empowerment, I'd be very surprised if anime characters of the time, such as 1999's Bubblegum Crisis Priss, didn't influence at least their designs and personalities a bit. People say that Mystery Incorporated is the closest thing to a Scooby anime, but I feel that these three Mook films actually are stylistically more anime than it.
Can anybody else see it? Hex Girl inspiration? Priss.
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Post by Ark on Jan 7, 2021 20:33:19 GMT -5
It was too politically correct for me. I mean did we really need a lecture on how "witches aren't really evil and its a Earth religion blah, blah, blah." If they wanted to get technical "Wicca" was created by Gerald Gardner in the 1950s. Its not an "old religion" at all. www.angelfire.com/wi2/thetruthaboutwicca/geraldgardner.html Yeah, my mother actually tossed this movie out when we first got it as kids. The idea of real witches really freaked her out, even though modern wicca/pagan beliefs are more symbolic than literal anyway. The '90s witch mythos-culture is captured really well in this film, though. It's funny... I could swear that the tabletop RPG "Bastet" World of Darkness splatbook was a large inspiration for the cat-creatures in Zombie Island, while the second edition of this game system was released around the time of this film: www.drivethrurpg.com/product/692/CJ-Carrellas-WitchCraft
Perhaps it's nothing more than crossover culture of the time, but it's interesting to see parallels.
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Post by Ark on Jan 7, 2021 20:42:35 GMT -5
Or why was Shaggy's uncle trying to scare Shaggy after giving him his mansion and turning into a ghost? Maybe he was trying to scare him out of leaving.
Recently, I've wondered if his uncle actually died before he was ready, due to illness or such. So, while he was happily hiding away clues for Shaggy, once he passed away his ghost wasn't ready to leave the mortal realm and he retaliates at anyone touching all his prized possessions. Death leaves him bitter. He also may have regretted not getting to know Shaggy better before he died, too. This makes the ending actually a happy ending, if by the end, he's gotten to see Shaggy's strength, helpful nature, and finally come to peace with his own death.
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Post by matt on Jan 17, 2021 17:44:20 GMT -5
Another great and high quality movie. Love the twist and Tim Curry's performance was the highlight for me. Also (obviously) the best Hex Girls performance
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Post by moonscar on Mar 14, 2021 6:20:28 GMT -5
Absolutely fantastic movie and a pretty close runner-up to Zombie Island. I would put this film on par with the original WAY series, which is about as high a praise as you can get. Love the Oakhaven scenery and the dark twist in the final act has an enormous payoff!
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