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Post by shadowii on Jun 12, 2011 9:27:45 GMT -5
^ you said basically everything i was thinking
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Post by ccook on Jun 12, 2011 9:34:35 GMT -5
Velma's mom seems to be the only parent who has some level of concern for her child. Velma seems to be odd out, seeing as how Daphne scolds her for keeping Angel's identity a secret from the gang--much like Velma scolds Daphne for keeping her engagement with Fred a secret--and (SPOILER BELOW)....
Daphne is being taken home to her parents, all distraught over the busted engagement, Scooby is going to a farm, Shaggy to a military school, and Fred on a solo hunt for his parents (Brad and Judy. Wouldn't that technically give Fred the last name of Chiles?)
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Post by lovespurple on Jun 12, 2011 9:50:34 GMT -5
SPOILER alert
I honestly think that Daphne will be the easiest for Scooby to get involved in the case again. She has the motive of helping Fred/getting closer to him, and I bet she's pretty determined to do what's best for Freddie. Velma will be easy, I guess, too, but there's definitely some negative air between Velma and Daphne (at least, there should be after Daphne blamed her for everything), and Shaggy can escape or whatever. I just think Fred is going to be really stubborn...but he has every right to be. Do you think he and Daphne will get engaged again? I was thinking maybe not because of Scooby's comment, "aren't you guys a little ... young?" But who knows at this point...
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Post by ccook on Jun 12, 2011 10:15:12 GMT -5
Afte being double-crossed by Pericles, seeing Scooby take initiative is very heartening.
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Post by jonwo on Jun 12, 2011 10:52:45 GMT -5
Loved the episode but I think the focus next season will be reuniting the gang and finding not only Brad and Judy but the treasure as well. I think Mr E will be back as the gang never found out who he was as will Angel.
Pericles' background is still unexplained, I wonder if he betrayed the gang for reasons other than the treasure?
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Post by edlar on Jun 12, 2011 11:26:52 GMT -5
S P O I L E R S There are still four pieces of the Planespheric Disc missing. The two pieces that were found were in places associated with the 2 of 3 major disappearances that happened in Crystal Cove (the Darrow Family and the missing Conquistadors). One of the missing pieces probably has to do with the third disappearance that happened in Crystal Cove that of the missing missionary town mentioned in Episode I. There is also the question of the stuff Pericles stole in "Where Walks Aphrodite". Perhaps each of the three items (the geological reports/the old conquistador shipping manifests/drill bit) lead to each of the last three pieces of the disc. Pericles' background is still unexplained, I wonder if he betrayed the gang for reasons other than the treasure? He ruined the lives of the old Mystery Inc when he conspired with the mayor to get them out of Crystal Cova. I think at this point any chance of him having an altruistic angle is gone.
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Post by dodo on Jun 12, 2011 16:32:53 GMT -5
*Spoilers*
Episodes 25 and 26 were really great, I thought and they resolved some mysteries but also kept some secret and introduced many new questions. I’m quite glad they put a hold on the humour for the final and went in a darker, more atmospheric approach. Of course, it ended on a very bitter note and it’ll be interesting to see how this develops in season 2. I do feel a little sorry for Fred Sr though, doesn’t excuse what he’s done but he did seem to care somewhat for Fred. Given the final moments I guess it’ll be Scooby who’ll be taking charge and escaping the farm to find the others.
It’ll be interesting to see where the gang will travel during the second season and I wonder if the other disk pieces will be found in different towns. I suppose the middle of the season will involve them doing a lot of venturing. I this means the adults will be playing smaller roles in the season until the gang returns to Crystal Cove. Although, I do think the Mayor and Angel will have a prominent if somewhat smaller role.
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Post by sagg on Jun 12, 2011 17:10:02 GMT -5
*Spoilers* Episodes 25 and 26 were really great, I thought and they resolved some mysteries but also kept some secret and introduced many new questions. I’m quite glad they put a hold on the humour for the final and went in a darker, more atmospheric approach. Of course, it ended on a very bitter note and it’ll be interesting to see how this develops in season 2. I do feel a little sorry for Fred Sr though, doesn’t excuse what he’s done but he did seem to care somewhat for Fred. Given the final moments I guess it’ll be Scooby who’ll be taking charge and escaping the farm to find the others. It’ll be interesting to see where the gang will travel during the second season and I wonder if the other disk pieces will be found in different towns. I suppose the middle of the season will involve them doing a lot of venturing. I this means the adults will be playing smaller roles in the season until the gang returns to Crystal Cove. Although, I do think the Mayor and Angel will have a prominent if somewhat smaller role. If the Mayor has any role, it'll be from jail. Angel? Possibly with Mr. E, who, if he does re-team with her, will have to clear the air and reestablish their trust issues. Both may try to help the gang, but from a distance, since once again the trust issue will come into question. Fred, however, must come to understand that the gang had nothing to do with the lies the Mayor gave to him as Fred grew up. It's as if Fred sees them as part of the lies, and that simply isn't true. In fact, it's stupid on his part. Fred will need the gang to help him find his parents and by extension, stopping Pericles from getting the disks to get the treasure. And what can a bird do with a treasure? ;D How's he going to move it if he does find it? Manipulation, perhaps? I suppose that's possible with Pericles, but even he would have to stretch the limit in risking getting double-crossed again like when he dealt with Fred Sr.
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Post by Thick Justice on Jun 12, 2011 17:15:40 GMT -5
Spoilers
Did anyone else notice the opening saying that the original gang disappeared 50 years ago. That would make Angel and Mr. E in there mid 60's. LOL Also that would make Fred Sr. If that is his real name in his late 70's early 80's as he was one of there teachers. LOL at the possibility of Fred's dad having children at age 60. LOL that would be crazy. Angel surely doesn't look that old.
Here is my question. Angel and Mr. E knew that Fred was not the son of Fred Sr. Doesn't that mean they knew that the freak gave Brad and Judy's child to Fred Sr. Considering Fred Sr. was there teacher and knew about the disc how did they not know he was the freak? The whole speech by Angel on beware the freak sounds more like she was acting there. I am curious if Mr. E isn't still pulling the gang's strings.
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Post by ccook on Jun 12, 2011 18:56:03 GMT -5
Oh, he is. Mr. E has as much of a vested interest in the treasure as Jones Sr. and Professor Pericles do. As the Freak, Jones probably didn't leave any telltale clues to Brad and Judy as he must have for Freddy to have sussed him out.
Mitch Watson's comment about a "surprise twist" must have meant we were expecting some finality in the story arc. Instead we got a cliffhanger.
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Post by sagg on Jun 12, 2011 20:27:45 GMT -5
Spoilers Did anyone else notice the opening saying that the original gang disappeared 50 years ago. That would make Angel and Mr. E in there mid 60's. LOL Also that would make Fred Sr. If that is his real name in his late 70's early 80's as he was one of there teachers. LOL at the possibility of Fred's dad having children at age 60. LOL that would be crazy. Angel surely doesn't look that old. No, it was 20 years ago. That would put the original human members of Mystery Inc. somewhere in their mid to late 30's.
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Post by Thick Justice on Jun 12, 2011 21:40:28 GMT -5
Spoilers Did anyone else notice the opening saying that the original gang disappeared 50 years ago. That would make Angel and Mr. E in there mid 60's. LOL Also that would make Fred Sr. If that is his real name in his late 70's early 80's as he was one of there teachers. LOL at the possibility of Fred's dad having children at age 60. LOL that would be crazy. Angel surely doesn't look that old. No, it was 20 years ago. That would put the original human members of Mystery Inc. somewhere in their mid to late 30's. Thanks 20 years makes way more sense I could have sworn it said 50. Thanks for clearing that up. That means Fred Sr. being 50 is a lot more believable. I wondered why it would have said 50.
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Post by shadowii on Jun 12, 2011 22:50:06 GMT -5
50 years ago is when the darrow family disapeared
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Post by sagg on Jun 13, 2011 6:53:42 GMT -5
50 years ago is when the darrow family disapeared Actually, it said "decades ago" on a Halloween, if I recall. It was estimated by the gang that the Darrows had been missing for some 75 years.
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Post by ccook on Jun 13, 2011 9:42:10 GMT -5
TV Tropes has a "Wild Mass Guess" page for the show where posters can speculate about what's going to happen in season 2. One scenario has Velma helping Scooby bust out of the farm he's headed to in an effort to reunite the team. Daphne refuses since she's still mad at Velma, and Freddy considers it. Then they bust Shaggy out of military camp. None of this official, mind. Just wild mass guesses.
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