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Post by futurerocker on Nov 1, 2018 0:07:49 GMT -5
Having only seen a few episode of this series I can appreciated for trying to change the formula and doing something new with the characters, but I think this show is a great example of why Scooby Doo should stick with paranormal and mystery-solving. The animation was just terrible and the theme song to me was such a letdown from What's New. I will admit I loved that Shaggy had some character development, though It seems like most of the his development from this show is just gone now. Also the lack of any supernatural monster or mystery really kills it for me. Personally, this is my least favorite series and I don't think anything they make from here on out will ever be as bad. A weird quirk of Get a Clue is that they had to completely change Shaggy's character in order to make the plot remotely work. That's a big reason why Shaggy & Scooby spinoffs are always a bad idea. The two fundamentally don't want to be involved in conflict and are too incompetent get themselves out of said conflict anyway. Shaggy got the same treatment Daphne got in Be Cool with the writers completely changing the character. This never works with any show. From the episode I've seen, which is only a few, Shaggy and Scooby really don't fear Dr. Phibes and his henchman. Now, personally I would be fine with this change if Shaggy and Scooby got use to his antics overtime. From what I remember Shaggy and Scooby were willing to defeat Phibes without showing any hesitation from the start. This is completely unlike them and this could really push viewers away.
Personally, I never really had a problem with any of the Shaggy and Scooby spinoffs. I enjoyed them a lot.
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Nov 1, 2018 12:23:08 GMT -5
A weird quirk of Get a Clue is that they had to completely change Shaggy's character in order to make the plot remotely work. That's a big reason why Shaggy & Scooby spinoffs are always a bad idea. The two fundamentally don't want to be involved in conflict and are too incompetent get themselves out of said conflict anyway. Shaggy got the same treatment Daphne got in Be Cool with the writers completely changing the character. This never works with any show. From the episode I've seen, which is only a few, Shaggy and Scooby really don't fear Dr. Phibes and his henchman. Now, personally I would be fine with this change if Shaggy and Scooby got use to his antics overtime. From what I remember Shaggy and Scooby were willing to defeat Phibes without showing any hesitation from the start. This is completely unlike them and this could really push viewers away.
Personally, I never really had a problem with any of the Shaggy and Scooby spinoffs. I enjoyed them a lot.
Changing a character's entire personality worked fine for Fred & Daphne on A Pup Named Scooby-Doo. Also, those early 80s Scrappy shorts are horrid and a big part of that is the need to have Scrappy drag Shaggy & Scooby kicking and screaming into the plot. It just gets tedious and contrived. In the late 80s TV movies they did a better job at having more at stake for Shaggy (i.e. family legacy, protecting his students, not wanting to be a werewolf). On Get a Clue, they usually had Scooby be the cowardly one and Shaggy have to talk him into doing stuff.
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Post by futurerocker on Nov 7, 2018 1:05:07 GMT -5
Shaggy got the same treatment Daphne got in Be Cool with the writers completely changing the character. This never works with any show. From the episode I've seen, which is only a few, Shaggy and Scooby really don't fear Dr. Phibes and his henchman. Now, personally I would be fine with this change if Shaggy and Scooby got use to his antics overtime. From what I remember Shaggy and Scooby were willing to defeat Phibes without showing any hesitation from the start. This is completely unlike them and this could really push viewers away.
Personally, I never really had a problem with any of the Shaggy and Scooby spinoffs. I enjoyed them a lot.
Changing a character's entire personality worked fine for Fred & Daphne on A Pup Named Scooby-Doo. Also, those early 80s Scrappy shorts are horrid and a big part of that is the need to have Scrappy drag Shaggy & Scooby kicking and screaming into the plot. It just gets tedious and contrived. In the late 80s TV movies they did a better job at having more at stake for Shaggy (i.e. family legacy, protecting his students, not wanting to be a werewolf). On Get a Clue, they usually had Scooby be the cowardly one and Shaggy have to talk him into doing stuff. It worked well in A Pup Named Scooby Doo because Fred and Daphne were younger. They acted more like kids because they were.
I have only seen a handful of the shorts, and the ones I've seen usually have Shaggy, Scooby, and Scrappy working an odd job or just accidentally finding trouble. I can't remember any of the shorts having Scrappy forcing them into doing some dangerous adventure.
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Post by jonathanmuddlemore on Nov 7, 2018 7:07:12 GMT -5
Changing a character's entire personality worked fine for Fred & Daphne on A Pup Named Scooby-Doo. Also, those early 80s Scrappy shorts are horrid and a big part of that is the need to have Scrappy drag Shaggy & Scooby kicking and screaming into the plot. It just gets tedious and contrived. In the late 80s TV movies they did a better job at having more at stake for Shaggy (i.e. family legacy, protecting his students, not wanting to be a werewolf). On Get a Clue, they usually had Scooby be the cowardly one and Shaggy have to talk him into doing stuff. It worked well in A Pup Named Scooby Doo because Fred and Daphne were younger. They acted more like kids because they were.
I have only seen a handful of the shorts, and the ones I've seen usually have Shaggy, Scooby, and Scrappy working an odd job or just accidentally finding trouble. I can't remember any of the shorts having Scrappy forcing them into doing some dangerous adventure.
Fred and Daphne's personalities were different because Tom Ruegger thought the characters were bland and wanted to give them more to do. Elements of these personalities, such as Daphne being fashion-obsessed and Fred being scatterbrained (neither of which were part of their characters before Pup), were later incorporated into the wider franchise. I'm sure if enough people became nostalgic for Be Cool, we'll see elements of Wacky Daphne in the future.
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Post by futurerocker on Nov 8, 2018 0:51:31 GMT -5
It worked well in A Pup Named Scooby Doo because Fred and Daphne were younger. They acted more like kids because they were.
I have only seen a handful of the shorts, and the ones I've seen usually have Shaggy, Scooby, and Scrappy working an odd job or just accidentally finding trouble. I can't remember any of the shorts having Scrappy forcing them into doing some dangerous adventure.
Fred and Daphne's personalities were different because Tom Ruegger thought the characters were bland and wanted to give them more to do. Elements of these personalities, such as Daphne being fashion-obsessed and Fred being scatterbrained (neither of which were part of their characters before Pup), were later incorporated into the wider franchise. I'm sure if enough people became nostalgic for Be Cool, we'll see elements of Wacky Daphne in the future. I'm sure over the years Be Cool will gain a cult following just like 13th Ghost did and will probably see ideas from that show incorporated into future series or movies. I just hope they kinda tone down Daphne a bit. Her character being more comedic and goofy was a nice change, but I personally think they went a little overboard with her antics.
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